Leroy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 10:54am:


So Russia invaded because they didn't get what they wanted via diplomacy, after they had already invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea, so their "trust us" claims during the diplomacy stage didn't really hold much water?

Do you think that maybe it has something to do with their apparent strategic goal of keeping Ukraine under Russian influence?  And if so, to take away Ukraine's independence if they were under EU or NATO membership, Russia would need to deal with them?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 11:58am:


Ah.

Zelensky and ‘missing’ aid money

In the Wednesday social media post, Trump falsely claimed that Zelensky “admits that half of the money we sent him is ‘MISSING.’” He made a similar claim to reporters on Tuesday.

But Zelensky has made no such admission. Rather, he has taken issue with inflated claims about how much US cash Ukraine has received.

He said in a February 1 interview with the Associated Press that although people talk about Ukraine getting as much as $200 billion in US aid, Ukraine had received about $76 billion, largely in the form of weapons. Zelensky said he doesn’t know where all the professed additional money has gone and that perhaps these higher figures are correct “on paper,” according to a translation by the news outlet Ukrainska Pravda.

Contrary to some viral social media posts this month, that wasn’t a confession that half of the cash that the US sent to Ukraine had vanished. In reality, Zelensky was saying exactly what experts in the US and elsewhere have repeatedly pointed out – that a large chunk of the total US budgetary “response” to the Ukraine war is not in the form of money handed to the Ukrainian government.

For example, experts at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank wrote last May: “The notion of ‘aid to Ukraine’ is a misnomer. Despite images of ‘pallets of cash’ being sent to Ukraine, about 72 percent of this money overall and 86 percent of the military aid will be spent in the United States. The reason for this high percentage is that weapons going to Ukraine are produced in U.S. factories, payments to U.S. service members are mostly spent in the United States, and even some piece of the humanitarian aid is spent in the United States.”

In new comments to reporters on Wednesday, Reuters reported, Zelensky said the US has provided about $67 billion in weapons and $31.5 billion in budget support.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:14pm:


You heard it here first, leftards, the jig's up. We've moved on from a political discussion of facts and figures (so 2015) to the dissemination of propaganda and full-blown cult worship.

Forget all our previous signalling about the importance of truth, justice and the American way.

From here on in, we'll eat it and we'll like it. We need to bow down and weep tears of pure gratitude.

Or else.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:



when was there ever agreement on the "truth" .

your truth is completely different from my truth.

trump is the only honest one because he recognises this deeper "truth"

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:14pm:


That's Trump Derangement Syndrome, especially after "Lying Hillary" and "Lying KamalAH" were such big problems for you.

John Smith wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

Leroy is Vladimir's username : 'the king'. Trump is on Ozpol, too.

chimera wrote on Feb 20^th, 2025 at 1:21pm:


Russia is not going to allow NATO to be in the Ukraine, That is just not going to happen, whilst Zelensky continues to insist that Ukraine will join NATO people are going to die.

Putin has made it clear that NATO in Ukraine is a threat to his country and he will not allow it. Thats just a fact of life.