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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12002 Armidale Gender:	Re: Trump threatening a governor Reply #15 - Yesterday at 4:11pm Panther wrote Yesterday at 2:06pm: Principals maybe, but not constitutional law. 'The Constitution explicitly gives Congress, not the president, the power of the purse. Article I, Section 9, Clause 7: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.”
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 4:57pm

Panther wrote Yesterday at 2:06pm:

chimera wrote Yesterday at 1:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 6:45am:

Chilling.

'However, under both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act, the president cannot withhold congressionally-approved funding without congressional authorization. Previous administrations have tried and failed to push similar measures, and courts have repeatedly ruled that such attempts violate both statutory and constitutional principles.
Despite what the president wants us to think, this attempt is no different.'
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/trumps-attempt-to-unilaterally-control...

Big Don may fight like hell or 'seig hell'.

Principals maybe, but not constitutional law.

That said there is nothing stopping the President from doing it. As in previous cases it would have to be decided in the courts.....after the fact.....with the United States Supreme Court the final arbiter if it gets that far, & SCOTUS agrees to hear it......and that is if/until the President orders it done the next time, where the long lists of appeals in court were finally settled.

If the President orders any allocated funds withheld it could easily spend many months going through litigation prior to any allocations.....& IMHO most would prefer out-of-court arbitration, because it probably would be faster, as opposed to months of litigation.

A law is only as good as the fortitude & strength of those willing to enforce it.

Hi Panther, where does your Constitution place the issue of sport and education? Is it:

A) With the states
B) Enacted by presidential decrees
C) Too confusing

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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 4:58pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:57pm:

Panther wrote Yesterday at 2:06pm:

chimera wrote Yesterday at 1:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 6:45am:

Chilling.

'However, under both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act, the president cannot withhold congressionally-approved funding without congressional authorization. Previous administrations have tried and failed to push similar measures, and courts have repeatedly ruled that such attempts violate both statutory and constitutional principles.
Despite what the president wants us to think, this attempt is no different.'
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/trumps-attempt-to-unilaterally-control...

Big Don may fight like hell or 'seig hell'.

Principals maybe, but not constitutional law.

That said there is nothing stopping the President from doing it. As in previous cases it would have to be decided in the courts.....after the fact.....with the United States Supreme Court the final arbiter if it gets that far, & SCOTUS agrees to hear it......and that is if/until the President orders it done the next time, where the long lists of appeals in court were finally settled.

If the President orders any allocated funds withheld it could easily spend many months going through litigation prior to any allocations.....& IMHO most would prefer out-of-court arbitration, because it probably would be faster, as opposed to months of litigation.

A law is only as good as the fortitude & strength of those willing to enforce it.

Hi Panther, where does your Constitution place the issue of sport and education? Is it:

A) With the states
B) Enacted by presidential decrees
C) Too confusing

It's about federal funding, grimacing paki.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35200 Gender:	Re: Trump threatening a governor Reply #18 - Yesterday at 5:00pm trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line. the left started lawfare so they would be punk ass bitches to complain
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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 5:42pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 4:58pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:57pm:

Panther wrote Yesterday at 2:06pm:

chimera wrote Yesterday at 1:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 6:45am:

Chilling.

'However, under both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act, the president cannot withhold congressionally-approved funding without congressional authorization. Previous administrations have tried and failed to push similar measures, and courts have repeatedly ruled that such attempts violate both statutory and constitutional principles.
Despite what the president wants us to think, this attempt is no different.'
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/trumps-attempt-to-unilaterally-control...

Big Don may fight like hell or 'seig hell'.

Principals maybe, but not constitutional law.

That said there is nothing stopping the President from doing it. As in previous cases it would have to be decided in the courts.....after the fact.....with the United States Supreme Court the final arbiter if it gets that far, & SCOTUS agrees to hear it......and that is if/until the President orders it done the next time, where the long lists of appeals in court were finally settled.

If the President orders any allocated funds withheld it could easily spend many months going through litigation prior to any allocations.....& IMHO most would prefer out-of-court arbitration, because it probably would be faster, as opposed to months of litigation.

A law is only as good as the fortitude & strength of those willing to enforce it.

Hi Panther, where does your Constitution place the issue of sport and education? Is it:

A) With the states
B) Enacted by presidential decrees
C) Too confusing

It's about federal funding, grimacing paki.

Oh? So why does the Maine governor keep referencing state anti discrimination legislation, you ridiculous old cadaver?

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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 5:48pm

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

And here you have it, leftards. The first confession of full-blown fascism.

Thanks, Aquascoot, it's good to have everybody on the same page, dear.

The old boy will be joining you forthwith. After a few limpwristed attempts at obfuscation, he'll come clean too, I can assure you.

It's taken us a few years, but we got there in the end, no?

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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 5:55pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 5:48pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

And here you have it, leftards. The first confession of full-blown fascism.

Thanks, Aquascoot, it's good to have everybody on the same page, dear.

The old boy will be joining you forthwith. After a few limpwristed attempts at obfuscation, he'll come clean too, I can assure you.

It's taken us a few years, but we got there in the end, no?

the people have spoken

donny had 34 charges brought against him under lawfare.

the people voted in donny so he would be free and so he could repay the left.

corrupt biden pardoned everyone he could think of at 11.30 before the midday handover of power.

donny must be so sick of winning

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12002 Armidale Gender:	Re: Trump threatening a governor Reply #22 - Yesterday at 6:12pm aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm: trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line. He has the fire power to hang Pence, come after you and open Russia's gulag prisons.
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35200 Gender:	Re: Trump threatening a governor Reply #23 - Yesterday at 6:48pm chimera wrote Yesterday at 6:12pm: aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm: trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line. He has the fire power to hang Pence, come after you and open Russia's gulag prisons. he may just be the most powerful man to have ever lived.
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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 7:02pm

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

the left started lawfare

so they would be punk ass bitches to complain Wink

Rule of law.
The punkass bitches don't like it when it is turned on them.

THEN the rule of law is fascism.

Punkass bitches IS the mot just. Punkass paki bitches. There is a satisfying ring to that.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12002 Armidale Gender:	Re: Trump threatening a governor Reply #25 - Yesterday at 7:08pm aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 6:48pm: he may just be the most powerful man to have ever lived. One opinion is that he's a child although 'man' is also an explanation.
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Reply #26 - Today at 12:54am

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:55pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 5:48pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

And here you have it, leftards. The first confession of full-blown fascism.

Thanks, Aquascoot, it's good to have everybody on the same page, dear.

The old boy will be joining you forthwith. After a few limpwristed attempts at obfuscation, he'll come clean too, I can assure you.

It's taken us a few years, but we got there in the end, no?

the people have spoken

donny had 34 charges brought against him under lawfare.

the people voted in donny so he would be free and so he could repay the left.

corrupt biden pardoned everyone he could think of at 11.30 before the midday handover of power.

donny must be so sick of winning

You're out now, Aquascoot. We always knew what you were up to, dear. Your fawning over the "noble Vlad" was revolting enough, but now we have the program in your own words: threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

Just think, nobody made you say that, you came up with it all on your own. You grew up in nice, peaceful Australia too - no wars, no depressions, just Sky News on the box first thing in the morning. It just goes to show how dormant the fascist mindset is. You don't even have to be a goose-stepper or Jew-hater. Scary, no?

Just think, if a comfy retiree in sunny old Queensland can turn Nazi, who else? Here we all were thinking fascism is so unAustralian. Our grandparents lived through WWI and the depression, then fought another war to defeat fascism. They were fervent believers in democracy. They never would have imagined their grandkids giving Nazi salutes and threatening to lock up anyone who stands in the way.

But we could, and we can, so now we know.

Civilisation has its discontents, no?

SIEG HEIL !!!

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Reply #27 - Today at 1:00am

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:02pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

trump has a mandate to threaten and lock up anyone who steps out of line.

the left started lawfare

so they would be punk ass bitches to complain Wink

Rule of law.
The punkass bitches don't like it when it is turned on them.

THEN the rule of law is fascism.

Punkass bitches IS the mot just. Punkass paki bitches. There is a satisfying ring to that.

Maine has a law, dear. Your DL is ordering a governor to break state law.

And not only. He's publicly threatening to withdraw federal taxes Maine residents paid and telling their governor he'll end her political career.

How's that for backroom diplomacy? Art of the deal, is it?

You gave up rule of law long ago, dear boy, so stop faking. The jig's up, as every schoolboy knows.

VENGEANCE !!!

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