Really - every tiny video is worth starting a whole new thread about it?

You already have a new Trump thread this morning:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1740173512


Do you have TDS ?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 8:30am:



he just doubles down on his lies ... and the maga morons believe him despite all the evidence to the contrary:D

Fact-checkers have been queueing up to rebut Trump’s incoherent Truth Social post last night, which is worth reposting here in full:

Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelensky, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us – We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues…

And so it does.

To westerners who have spent years grandstanding against Putin, such words are anathema. To the many Ukrainians who have fought and died fighting Russian forces in their country, such rhetoric is beyond reprehensible. But if you can somehow look through the insensitivity, the febrile exaggerations, the score-settling with Zelensky, the half-lies and the cruel braggadocio, you have to admit that he is right – or at least not wrong.

Only offensive, odious Donald could end the war in Ukraine, which he is now doing. Europe has failed to bring peace. In a press conference on Tuesday, Trump said that Ukrainians shouldn’t complain about not being involved in his dialogue with Russia: ‘Well, you’ve been there for three years… you should have ended it three years… You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.’ That’s been widely interpreted as him saying that Ukraine started the war, and while his choice of words was poor, in context he is clearly referring to the thwarted efforts to achieve peace in the conflict’s early days in 2022. Trump is also right to say that vast amounts of western funding to Ukraine have gone missing, because the country is – and always has been – deeply corrupt.

For European leaders who have spent years advocating on behalf of Ukraine, the most painful part will be Trump’s reckoning on Zelensky. In the days and months that followed Russia’s invasion, when Ukraine’s President bravely stayed in Kyiv and led Ukraine’s impressive resistance, Zelensky became a western hero. People called him a 21st-century Churchill. He was fêted in European capitals, Hollywood and on the cover of Vogue magazine as young men killed each other on the front line.

There’s no doubt that, in our eagerness to champion the man in the military fatigues, we overlooked the more sordid aspects of his leadership. The Pandora papers showing his links to shady offshore bank accounts were forgotten about. His ties to deeply corrupt and double-dealing oligarchs, such as Ihor Kolomoisky, were brushed over. His ruthless suppression of Moscow-affiliated religious groups was dismissed as Kremlin ‘disinformation’.

Western politicians, and military-industrial types who have made a lot of money from the war effort, have always known, deep down, that in supporting Ukraine against Putin they have covered up awkward truths. What really frightens them now is not necessarily Trump’s recklessness. It’s that the murkier realities of the Ukraine-Russia relationship and the West’s involvement in the conflict going back to 2014 and before, may soon come to light.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-cruellest-thing-about-trump-vs-zelensky-...

Karnal wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 6:34pm:



You poor stupid bastard. If the "journalist" had been doing his job, he would have fact-checked first, to see if Trump had done something about the FAA, and if they had followed through. As it is, we have a "it says" but nothing about whether Trump in fact lied. You don't do logical thought processes, do you?

scope wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 8:18pm:


So the "journalist" didn't do his homework and couldn't refute.

So using the video as evidence -

Undisputed fact - DEI preceded Trump.

Then  there is no further evidence entered.

Questions for later administrations -

1. Was consideration for DEI hire made illegal?
2. Was consideration for DEI hire made mandatory?
3. Was consideration for DEI hire to be preferenced over others?
4. Was consideration for DEI hire to be subject to quota?

Who exactly did what? The video says nothing about it. Without those the video is wortless as to lies.

It seems more cut and paste to shock and awe.

scope wrote Yesterday at 1:15pm:


Because that is the thread dummy.

But I see you haven't debunked anything.

You know like posting What DEI implementation Trump did.

Like what DEI implementation Biden did.

The video as is, is not proof of anything.