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Fatima Payman supports Islamic regime Iran
Feb 26^th, 2025 at 11:11pm

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Fatima Payman says Iranian women 'have a voice', accuses West of spreading 'propaganda'

Speaking about women's rights in Iran, the independent senator said there were "realities that we're not privy to living here and listening to the propaganda we receive".

In a broadcast from Iranian state-owned news media Press TV, Payman is quoted as saying Westerners are not exposed to the "incredible place that Iran is, allowing for women to participate in the workforce, to ensure that they have a voice, and their voices are heard, they're involved in the democratic process".

The statement — made at an event on 22 February at Western Sydney University — quickly attracted backlash from Australian United Solidarity for Iran (AUSIRAN), a community group supporting the Woman, Life, Freedom movement in Iran.

In a letter titled No Cover for Islamic Republic's Regime Gender Apartheid, AUSIRAN said it was "outraged" by the statements of Payman and NSW Women's Minister for Women Jodie Harrison, who sent a video message that was played at the event.

"Their decision to attend an event in Sydney — which flagrantly supported the Islamic Republic regime's misrepresentation of women's rights and its propaganda — is a profound act of hypocrisy," the letter read.

"For decades, the regime has silenced Iranian people's voices, a cruelty most recently revealed during the uprising following the tragic death of Mahsa Jina Amini, a woman whose life was unjustly taken by police violence."

Amini was a woman from Iran's Kurdish minority who died after being arrested by the so-called morality police for allegedly not observing the country's mandatory hijab laws in 2022.

Iranian authorities claim she suffered from an underlying health condition, but eyewitnesses say she was beaten inside the police van.

In reaction to her death, thousands of protesters took to the streets in cities all over Iran for months, chanting "Woman, Life Freedom" and calling for regime change.

The protests were met with a "brutal government crackdown that resulted in hundreds of deaths and tens of thousands of arbitrary arrests," according to Human Rights Watch.

Kylie Moore-Gilbert — an Australian expert in Middle Eastern political science who was detained for two years in Iran on espionage charges — also criticised Payman's comments.

"Oh my God @SenatorPayman girl what are you doing!? What is this nonsense you are saying!?" she wrote on X.

"Iran has no 'democratic process,' least of all one which women are allowed to participate in. You should know this — I saw you sitting in the Senate enquiry into Iran's human rights abuses just 2 years ago.

While not directly addressing her comments, Payman released a statement explaining her attendance at what she described as an "Iranian women's empowerment event to celebrate International Women's Day".

She said she had "heard first hand their experiences in Iran and the rights and opportunities afforded to them".

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/fatima-payman-says-iranian-women-have-a-voic...

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18921 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman supports Islamic regime Iran Reply #1 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 11:14pm Muslims say Allah is the most merciful of those who show mercy. Allah punishes rape victims for all eternity while doing nothing about the rapist in these cases. Womens rights in Iran eh?
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Reply #2 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 11:17pm

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Goldie Ghamari, JD | گلسا قمری
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It always starts with their cutesy false victimhood propaganda in order to lure in the leftists.

Like literally no one cares if you're wearing Hijab or not. Just do your job and leave religion out of it.

You're in Australia.

But as soon as these fake victims are in a position of power, they reveal their true colours and start spreading their Islamist propaganda in support of the terrorist Islamic Regime occupying Iran.

@SenatorPayman
isn't even Iranian.

Why is an AFGHAN supporting the terrorist Islamic Regime?

Who's funding this?

https://x.com/gghamari/status/1893984015037641131

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Reply #3 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 11:18pm

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Goldie Ghamari, JD | گلسا قمری
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The speech that went viral around the world.

When I stood up in the Ontario Legislature, I didn't know what I was going to say. I didn't have any prepared notes in front of me.

I chose to speak from my heart and from my experience as an immigrant whose family escaped from the most brutal radical Islamofacist regime in the world: the terrorist Islamic Regime in Iran.

We came to Canada because we wanted to live a better life. We embrace Canadian values.

I am a proud Canadian, I will always defend Canada, and I will always put my country first.

Honoured and humbled by all the messages/phone calls of support I've received by thousands of people in Carleton, Ontario, Canada and around the world.

Thank you.

https://x.com/gghamari/status/1721712427740381670

Goldie is an excellent example of Iranian ex muslim/non muslim

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Re: Fatima Payman supports Islamic regime Iran
Reply #4 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 8:13am

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In a broadcast from Iranian state-owned news media Press TV, Payman is quoted as saying Westerners are not exposed to the "incredible place that Iran is, allowing for women to participate in the workforce, to ensure that they have a voice, and their voices are heard, they're involved in the democratic process".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Iran

Iran's system of government (nezam) was described by Juan José Linz in 2000 as combining "the ideological bent of totalitarianism with the limited pluralism of authoritarianism".[1] Although it "holds regular elections in which candidates who advocate different policies and incumbents are frequently defeated",[1] Iran scored lower than Saudi Arabia in the 2021 Democracy Index, determined by the Economist Intelligence Unit.[2]

Iran's president, a parliament (e.g. Majlis), an Assembly of Experts, which elects the supreme leader, and local councils are all elected. All candidates who run for these positions must be vetted by the Guardian Council (which disqualifies the overwhelming majority of the candidates) for their loyalty to the Islamic Republic's system of government.[4] In 1998, the Guardian Council rejected Hadi Khamenei's candidacy for a seat in the Assembly of Experts for "insufficient theological qualifications".

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Reply #5 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 10:17pm

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The Afghan politician in Australia who defended the terrorist Islamic Regime occupying Iran just said it wasn't her "personal opinion".

She is essentially admitting to foreign interference.

@SenatorPayman who is paying you to spew Islamofascist Jihadi ideology?

Whose opinion was it?

You're a terrorist supporter and national security threat to Australia.

You should be stripped of your citizenship and deported.

https://x.com/gghamari/status/1895064021981970728

Iranian women are speaking out with Fatimas bullshit. Wink

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 85587 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman supports Islamic regime Iran Reply #6 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 10:41pm Stop voting on party lines - check out who they have standing for election and what that person stands for - you can bet, these days, it is NOT what you want. You won't take back the farm by sleeping in the haystack with young Betty ...
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Reply #8 - Feb 28^th, 2025 at 12:36am

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/payman-apologises-for-saying-iran-is-a-...

"Independent senator Fatima Payman says controversial comments she made at an Iranian women's event over the weekend do not represent her own views, adding that she was not aware that the media outlet interviewing her was affiliated with the Iranian regime.

In an interview published by Iranian state-owned broadcaster Press TV earlier this week, the former Labor backbencher appeared to say that Iran was an "incredible place" for women, where "their voices are heard".

"The incredible place that Iran is, allowing for women to participate in the workforce, to ensure that they have a voice and their voices are heard. They're involved in the democratic process," Senator Payman said in the clip shared by the broadcaster.

"Realities that we're not privy to living here and listening to the propaganda that we receive from very single-sided organisations with a specific agenda."

The comments were condemned by the Australian United Solidarity for Iran, which advocates for the freedom of Iranian women, who described them as a "betrayal", as well as Australian Iranian Community president Siamak Gharheman, who said they were "insulting to Iranian women".

But in a statement released on Thursday, the West Australian senator apologised and explained that they did not reflect her own views, but those of women who had shared their personal experiences at the event.

"At the event, I listened to Australian-Iranian women share their personal experiences, describing life in positive terms. When a journalist from Press TV later asked about the conversations I had at the event, I made comments that reflected what women had shared with me," she said.

"I acknowledge that the Iranian community is not homogenous and individuals have different lived experiences.

"However, I recognise that my comments did not reflect the realities of women who have suffered violence, brutality, and severe human rights violations."

The United Nations has found that Iran's government has subjected women and girls, religious minorities and gay and lesbian people to systemic violence and discrimination."

**quotes mothra** so much to unpack there **clears throat so as not to choke on a buzzword** ..... clearly a serious OOPS moment...

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Reply #10 - Feb 28^th, 2025 at 9:04am

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

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Independent senator Fatima Payman says controversial comments she made at an Iranian women's event over the weekend do not represent her own views

WTF? Whose views are they? Did the Labor party put some kind of puppet in the Senate?

Didn't she get in as a Labor candidate, then become an 'independent' Muslim senator? So clearly the views expressed belong to her alter ego as a Labor Senator, and are not her own.

It's long past time for the MPD community to have direct representation in our Parliament... with a little bit of imagination they can be and do anything they like!! Same applies to the transgenders .....

She's also a 'Ghani, so already has two strings to her bow - now three...... "My views are not my own an Independent senator of Afghan birth who never lived in Iran which has a different cultural aspect to Afghanistan - they are those of that pesky other character that I share this body with....the Labor Senator who knows it all........"

Shouldn't her name be Paywoman?

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Reply #12 - Feb 28^th, 2025 at 9:10am

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2025 at 9:06am:

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Didn't she get in as a Labor candidate, then become an 'independent' Muslim senator?

Yes. Lately both Labor and the Greens have put some complete wackjobs into parliament for us, because it looked woke, so long as you didn't scratch the surface too much.

Someone in the Senate told Thorpe to STFU ..

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