Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1
st, 2025 at 6:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1
st, 2025 at 6:48am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1
st, 2025 at 6:47am:
It is really hard to watch and hard to believe it actually happened in the Oval Office. It just beggars belief and you have to wonder in what alternate reality Trump and Vance are living. None of what they said was true. Not one thing. Trump and Vance were massively disrespectful to Zelenskyy, trying to change the facts to suit their warped sense of reality and attacking the President of Ukraine for standing up for his country and his people. It was a shameful display by Trump and Vance. Absolutely appalling behaviour from those two.
Zelenskyy needs to now freeze the US out of any further negotiations with Russia and instead seek a peace deal that involves Europe and European leaders from France, the UK, Germany and Italy. This is a problem that affects Europe and Trump has said so himself, that America is not affected by this war by Russia. It affects security in Europe and it must be solved by Europe. Trump is clearly too mentally unstable to negotiate any kind of deal and must be frozen out of this and Zelenskyy should call a press conference saying exactly this.
Ukraine is losing -
they have lost maybe half a million people and many cities are demolished -
like Mariupol.
If it goes on more people will die and maybe the whole of Ukraine will be demolished.
It could also lead to WW3 – a nuclear war where we all die.
Does Zelensky care about us or even his own people?
Of course Ukraine is losing. They're a much smaller military but they've done an astonishing job of defending their country.[/quoter]
But here's the thing that Trump - and apparently you also - seem to have forgotten. Zelenskyy didn't start this war. He's doing the best he can to defend his country.
"Defend" his country?
You are sounding like Albo (and the mainstream commentariat including all war-mongers) who are bleating about 'international rule of law' despite the fact it doesn't exist, owing to your obsolete 'absolute national sovereignty' theory (resulting in the UNSC veto).
Wake up.
Quote:That's what any reasonable person would expect from a democratically elected leader of a country invaded by a dictator. I would expect nothing less from Albanese if Australia was invaded by an aggressor. All that Trump cares about is getting a peace deal so he can look good.
Your error: the question is WHY would your country be invaded (whether by a dictator or not)? Neither Russia or China have designs on Oz, because the principle of multi polarity is now respeced by most of the world, and Oz is part of the US pole.
Quote:Trump doesn't care how he gets a peace deal or what Ukraine must give up.
Trump wants to 'MAGA', and he can't do it if he has to support a loser who is relying on support from US taxpayers (like non-US NATO itself, which has hidden behind US skirts since NATO's inception).
Nothing you just said makes any sense whatsoever, none.
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