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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #195 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Marla wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:36pm:
The only way this ends is when Europe amasses troops at the Polish border...



No, this ends with Germany rebuilding its military. Went so well the last time. 



No European country is prepared to fight Putin -

they have had 3 years to decide -
they have all said no.

Bolding it doesn't make you look like you've got balls...

You post on a political forum and you don't understand the influence the US had in NATO over holding back European leaders.



The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #196 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:58am:
A coward is someone in Australia who thinks 16 yo Ukrainians should be buried in an artillery barrage and then end up in the same situation we are in now . If not worse.



So the young Aussies who fought against overwhelming odds in Kakoda and Tobruk were cowards?

Face it horse boy, you would be the first to say take it all ...whilst you were running in the other direction



john you silly billy.

where did i say that?

the young australians and ukranins are brave and heroic.

it is the old cowards like YOU who would never join them in the trenches who are the cowards.

you fight your battles bravely from your keyboard  Embarrassed Embarrassed

you and your leftie mates retreated in the face of the mild covid virus. Roll Eyes

thats how brave YOU are Cheesy Cheesy

thats how much death anxiety YOU have  Cheesy Cheesy



Except you're the idiot who isolated during covid, hiding in your stables with your jackasses whilst I went out to work with the public every day D Cheesy


I live in the hope that one day, just one day, you might get something right. Being the eternal optimist that I am Grin Grin
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #197 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:55pm:
john you silly billy.

Sometimes I wonder if Mrs Aquascoot doesn't log on while Mr Aquasccot is making cabins out of horseshit...
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #198 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Marla wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:36pm:
The only way this ends is when Europe amasses troops at the Polish border...



No, this ends with Germany rebuilding its military. Went so well the last time. 



No European country is prepared to fight Putin -

they have had 3 years to decide -
they have all said no.

Bolding it doesn't make you look like you've got balls...

You post on a political forum and you don't understand the influence the US had in NATO over holding back European leaders.



The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #199 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:14pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.



They don't need any agreement.

Macron was going to send French troops at one point but he chickened out.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #200 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:15pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:58pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Marla wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:36pm:
The only way this ends is when Europe amasses troops at the Polish border...



No, this ends with Germany rebuilding its military. Went so well the last time. 



No European country is prepared to fight Putin -

they have had 3 years to decide -
they have all said no.

Bolding it doesn't make you look like you've got balls...

You post on a political forum and you don't understand the influence the US had in NATO over holding back European leaders.



The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.


From 2018 when they laughed at Trump.

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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia" and he criticized it for failing to raise defense spending more.
Trump, meeting reporters with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, before a NATO summit in Brussels, said it was "very inappropriate" that the United States was paying for European defense against Russia while Germany, the biggest European economy, was supporting gas deals with Moscow.
Trump was due to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the summit later in the day and will meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on Monday.
Berlin has given political support to the building of a new, $11-billion pipeline to bring Russian gas across the Baltic Sea called Nord Stream 2, despite qualms among other EU states. However, Merkel insists the project is a private commercial venture and is not funded by German taxpayers.
"When Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia," Trump said to Stoltenberg. "We're supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #201 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:18pm
 
Leroy wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:15pm:
From 2018 when they laughed at Trump.

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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia" and he criticized it for failing to raise defense spending more.
Trump, meeting reporters with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, before a NATO summit in Brussels, said it was "very inappropriate" that the United States was paying for European defense against Russia while Germany, the biggest European economy, was supporting gas deals with Moscow.
Trump was due to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the summit later in the day and will meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on Monday.
Berlin has given political support to the building of a new, $11-billion pipeline to bring Russian gas across the Baltic Sea called Nord Stream 2, despite qualms among other EU states. However, Merkel insists the project is a private commercial venture and is not funded by German taxpayers.
"When Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia," Trump said to Stoltenberg. "We're supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.

Not surprising... Trump thought Putin was his special friend back then... Acted like a jilted lover when Putin made deals with other leaders.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #202 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:20pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:01pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:58am:
A coward is someone in Australia who thinks 16 yo Ukrainians should be buried in an artillery barrage and then end up in the same situation we are in now . If not worse.



So the young Aussies who fought against overwhelming odds in Kakoda and Tobruk were cowards?

Face it horse boy, you would be the first to say take it all ...whilst you were running in the other direction



john you silly billy.

where did i say that?

the young australians and ukranins are brave and heroic.

it is the old cowards like YOU who would never join them in the trenches who are the cowards.

you fight your battles bravely from your keyboard  Embarrassed Embarrassed

you and your leftie mates retreated in the face of the mild covid virus. Roll Eyes

thats how brave YOU are Cheesy Cheesy

thats how much death anxiety YOU have  Cheesy Cheesy



Except you're the idiot who isolated during covid, hiding in your stables with your jackasses whilst I went out to work with the public every day D Cheesy


I live in the hope that one day, just one day, you might get something right. Being the eternal optimist that I am Grin Grin


hi john, you silly sausage.

when did i ever isoltae from covid Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #203 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:22pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:16pm:
Trump will never be half the man that Zelenskyy is. Back in February 2022, he was offered US assistance to flee Ukraine and he refused so he could remain with his countrymen to coordinate and lead the fight against Putin. Trump will never be the man Zelenskyy is - never.



mah

zelensky is sacrificing his young people.

he , himself , will then hop on a jet and go swan around hollywood.

he is letting others make the sacrifice for him.

whats admirable about that ?

Aww wake up and smell the turd in your bed...

What year do you think this is? 1483?

This ends when Putin sees a European army at his doorstep preparing to drive him out of Ukraine... not before.



a european army you say?

do tell
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Reply #204 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.



They don't need any agreement.

Macron was going to send French troops at one point but he chickened out.

No agreement needed, eh!

How does a French army and its materiel locate itself in Ukraine without approval from other European countries? Scotty beaming them over there?
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Reply #205 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:22pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:16pm:
Trump will never be half the man that Zelenskyy is. Back in February 2022, he was offered US assistance to flee Ukraine and he refused so he could remain with his countrymen to coordinate and lead the fight against Putin. Trump will never be the man Zelenskyy is - never.



mah

zelensky is sacrificing his young people.

he , himself , will then hop on a jet and go swan around hollywood.

he is letting others make the sacrifice for him.

whats admirable about that ?

Aww wake up and smell the turd in your bed...

What year do you think this is? 1483?

This ends when Putin sees a European army at his doorstep preparing to drive him out of Ukraine... not before.



a european army you say?

do tell

A coalition of Fins, Swedes, Baltics, Poles, French... for a start.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #206 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:27pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.



They don't need any agreement.

Macron was going to send French troops at one point but he chickened out.

No agreement needed, eh!

How does a French army and its materiel locate itself in Ukraine without approval from other European countries? Scotty beaming them over there?



They would drive their trucks through Poland or
use trains through Poland all the way to Ukraine.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #207 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:27pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:00pm:
The French could have sent their army there without permission from NATO.

Oh really... How would they have got there without the agreement of NATO/EU countries?

Germany had a gun to its head over energy supplies when this started.



They don't need any agreement.

Macron was going to send French troops at one point but he chickened out.

No agreement needed, eh!

How does a French army and its materiel locate itself in Ukraine without approval from other European countries? Scotty beaming them over there?


Do you mean that if France wanted to free Ukraine from Russia other countries in Europe would prevent this from happening.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #208 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:28pm:
Ukraine is finished now.

Europe has had 3 years to send an army to help Ukraine:
a French army, a British army, a German army and of course a Polish army.

Europe is not prepared to let their soldiers die to help Ukraine.
They will only join in the war if they are attacked by Putin.

Thankfully Europeans are not bedshitting cowards like yourself.


Yes they are, hiding behind US skirts since the inception of NATO.

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The Fins, the Baltics, the Swedes and the Polish masturbate to the thought of gunning down invading Russian soldiers.


Only in your sick brain.

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And nevermind the Romanians and Georgians...


They aren't at war with Putin at present; and you are accusing Trump of being a coward... 



You're the coward...


I'll ask again: is Trump a coward?

Answer the question, or be exposed as a delusional democracy=freedom ideologue

[Note: Trump has indeed imposed virtual one-party rule in the US, by sheer force of his personality,  anathema to you delusional democracy= freedom ideologues.   

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Ask the Fins, the Baltics, the Swedes and the Polish what they think of Russians on their borders.


The weak have always submitted to the strong, before 1945, read history.

Now they are hiding behind the US.


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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #209 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:29pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 1:22pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 12:16pm:
Trump will never be half the man that Zelenskyy is. Back in February 2022, he was offered US assistance to flee Ukraine and he refused so he could remain with his countrymen to coordinate and lead the fight against Putin. Trump will never be the man Zelenskyy is - never.



mah

zelensky is sacrificing his young people.

he , himself , will then hop on a jet and go swan around hollywood.

he is letting others make the sacrifice for him.

whats admirable about that ?

Aww wake up and smell the turd in your bed...

What year do you think this is? 1483?

This ends when Putin sees a European army at his doorstep preparing to drive him out of Ukraine... not before.



a european army you say?

do tell

A coalition of Fins, Swedes, Baltics, Poles, French... for a start.


For real you think these countries are going to send their young men and women into this war, are you serious?.
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