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Reply #30 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:35am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:28am:
Trump was totally right. As was Vance.
Sure, they were hard on Zelensky, but they were fair.
Zelensky is so propaganda motivated and as you saw, it only goes so far with a USA team that deals with more in its hand of cards than just the Media. Trump is totally right. The first step is a Ceasefire and only from there can more steps be taken.
BETTER THAN NOTHING ZELENSKY, SO BE GRATEFUL INDEED.

They were unhinged...

Trump ranting about 'Russiagate'... Putin's dick's so far up his arse, he doesn't know whether to sh!t or moan...

Vance c~nting on about whether Zelensk said 'thank you'...

A Yankist reporter asking why Zelensky didn't wear a suit.

Yankism is a prostitute culture and Yankists are cowards at the core...

Where are you placed on tariffs being imposed on Australian goods, despite a trade surplus in America's favour?
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Reply #31 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:36am
 
Well, it is terrible.   To have the backing of US, and 'peace', Ukraine have to sign away much of its mineral wealth to 'repay' the US without security guarantee.  Who knows, when all the mines are empty, the US would just leave anyway by the way this is going. 

I am afraid, if I am in that situation.  I may just work out a deal with Putin instead, and just become a vassal state to Russia.  Russia believes Ukraine and its people are part of Russia anyway, and most Ukrainians speaks Russian.   That way, they at least get to keep some mineral wealth.  And at least a cease fire long enough to rebuild the whole country.    Why bend my knees at US?
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Reply #32 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:38am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:28am:
Trump was totally right. As was Vance.
Sure, they were hard on Zelensky, but they were fair.
Zelensky is so propaganda motivated and as you saw, it only goes so far with a USA team that deals with more in its hand of cards than just the Media. Trump is totally right. The first step is a Ceasefire and only from there can more steps be taken.
BETTER THAN NOTHING ZELENSKY, SO BE GRATEFUL INDEED.


You are living in the same bizzaro alternate reality as Trump and Vance. Trump is unhappy with Zelenskyy for not just signing away his natural resources to Trump. Trump is not happy with Zelenskyy for not just signing a "peace" deal that gives Russia everything it wants at the expense of the Ukrainian people. There can't be a ceasefire while Putin murders innocent Ukrainian civilians. He needs to withdraw his troops from Ukrainian territory. Trump and Vance were firmly in the wrong during this meeting in the Oval Office and have done immense harm to the reputation of the United States.
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Reply #33 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:39am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:35am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:28am:
Trump was totally right. As was Vance.
Sure, they were hard on Zelensky, but they were fair.
Zelensky is so propaganda motivated and as you saw, it only goes so far with a USA team that deals with more in its hand of cards than just the Media. Trump is totally right. The first step is a Ceasefire and only from there can more steps be taken.
BETTER THAN NOTHING ZELENSKY, SO BE GRATEFUL INDEED.

They were unhinged...

Trump ranting about 'Russiagate'... Putin's dick's so far up his arse, he doesn't know whether to sh!t or moan...

Vance c~nting on about whether Zelensk said 'thank you'...

A Yankist reporter asking why Zelensky didn't wear a suit.

Yankism is a prostitute culture and Yankists are cowards at the core...

Where are you placed on tariffs being imposed on Australian goods, despite a trade surplus in America's favour?


JaSin loves it. Anything to screw another country over, including his own.

We're dealing with bots here, boys. Vlad started this. JaSin's DL's merely finishing it.

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Reply #34 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:39am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:36am:
Well, it is terrible.   To have the backing of US, and 'peace', Ukraine have to sign away much of its mineral wealth to 'repay' the US without security guarantee.  Who knows, when all the mines are empty, the US would just leave anyway by the way this is going. 

Yankists will leave the second there's no money in it for them.

As for the fighting, like they did during the Cold War, they'll leave the fighting to others.
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Reply #35 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:45am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:38am:
meeting in the Oval Office and have done immense harm to the reputation of the United States.

In reality, is it? Vietcong held northern South Vietnam and the US walked off with Vietcong then winning everything.  Taliban advanced in Afghanistan so Trump walked off and lost the war. But US won against Sadam Hussein and his Iraqi nukes which was the wrong war..
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Reply #36 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:47am
 
Here is a sample of just how stupid Trump and Vance are. Vance says Zelenskyy hasn't thanked the US or Trump either enough or at all. Is this kindergarten? Trump says to Zelenskyy he has no cards to play and Zelenskyy rightly says he is not playing cards. He's right. This isn't a game, it's peoples' lives.
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Reply #37 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:53am
 
Apparently, it was Vance who was snotted that Zelensky didn't wear a suit... I guess you can take the boy out of white-trash America but not the fear of it out of the man.

Everyone knows why Zelensky wears what he wears... was he worried about Musk wearing a T-shirt and a cap while he was sucking Musk's cock and laughing like a hyena?

Maybe Vance should look back at pictures of Churchill meeting Roosevelt when Britain was at war...

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Reply #38 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:54am
 
LOL


Zelensky knows Trump is a certifiable idiot and already bought-and-paid-for by Putin.
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Reply #39 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:56am
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 5:41am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 5:25am:
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What DL's ghostwriter means: Zalensky can come back when he's ready to cave to Putin.

Also, he'll have to say thanks again to JD Vance, who I'm betting wrote this.

There goes Day One, eh?

Better luck next war, Bobby.


Your error: you still think war in the age of MAD is necessary/acceptable to solve disputes....you are MAD, by definition.

An interesting test of Trump's popularity will soon arise: do the American people agree with Trump's  stance on the Ukraine war.

"War is for losers" - as Trump once said, let's see if the public agree with him.

"I'm the most powerful man in the world" - which is true, being CinC of the Pentagon -  who believes in using that power to avoid war.

Thing is, Trump respects strength and he actually believes - like Putin - nuclear weapons have a purpose,  ie to avoid war, and he knows war with Putin is a risky business; "you are risking WW3",  he told Zelensky.   

Of course military brass and the mainstream media  are already calling Trump "an embarassment" and saying "he should be removed from office".

So...you "freedom or death"  losers want to risk war with Putin.

Wouldn't it be smarter to understand Putin's pov, and negotiate, to avoid war in the age of MAD?

Trump is the 1st leader who is prepared to use his power to fulfill the envisioned role of the UNSC, ie, to maintain global security - a vision annulled  from the beginning  by an obsolete 'absolute national sovereignty' theory (hence the UNSC veto).

Anyone  who wants to attack the Pentagon in the age of MAD , be warned.....hence the readiness of both Putin and Trump to negotiate on mutually agreeable terms,  given Russia has the 2nd most powerful nuclear arsenal in the world..

(a quick look at previous posts...gawd, am I agreeing with Jasin? ....we are a hopelessly confused lot of bunnies...."the human condition",  indeed).

   
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Reply #40 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:57am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:39am:
Yankists will leave the second there's no money in it for them.


Now you're getting it, asshole. Exactly why America won't save you when China invades your "shithole" of a country. There's no money in it for Trump. Which means no money for me.


MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:39am:
As for the fighting, like they did during the Cold War, they'll leave the fighting to others.



Such as..?
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Reply #41 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:58am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:13am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:07am:
So do you believe that we should risk the whole world being destroyed in WW3 - a nuclear war -
over some territories that 3 years ago hardly anyone had ever heard of?

Like Czechoslovakia, eh!

The usual wank from a coward...

Always WW3 if Yankists don't get money.



All the world can do is contain Russia just like we contained the Soviets.
Anything else and we're all dead.

How are Yankists containing Russia?

Face it, you're a coward.




Nah

A coward is someone in Australia who thinks 16 yo Ukrainians should be buried in an artillery barrage and then end up in the same situation we are in now . If not worse.

A coward is a comedian President with not a scratch on him who will, eventually, catch a jet out of his smouldering country and go kick it in Hollywood with George clunky.

Now THATS a coward.

A coward is also an 80 yo ice cream eater without the guts to end this.

A brave man is someone who takes the slings and arrows from keyboard warriors so as to save real lives.

Keep up the good work Donny
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Reply #42 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:00am
 
Marla wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:57am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:39am:
As for the fighting, like they did during the Cold War, they'll leave the fighting to others.



Such as..?

All of Europe, c
unt
, Yankists supplied the weapons... all paid for to contain the USSR while Yankists c~nted on about the threat of communism to the US...

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Reply #43 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:01am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 7:58am:
Nah

A coward is someone in Australia who thinks 16 yo Ukrainians should be buried in an artillery barrage and then end up in the same situation we are in now . If not worse.

A coward is a comedian President with not a scratch on him who will, eventually, catch a jet out of his smouldering country and go kick it in Hollywood with George clunky.

Now THATS a coward.

A coward is also an 80 yo ice cream eater without the guts to end this.

A brave man is someone who takes the slings and arrows from keyboard warriors so as to save real lives.

Keep up the good work Donny



Can anyone here decipher this word salad?
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Reply #44 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:02am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1st, 2025 at 8:00am:
All of Europe, c
unt
, Yankists supplied the weapons... all paid for to contain the USSR while Yankists c~nted on about the threat of communism to the US...




Yeah....uh-huh. You're a festering moron. Try reading a history book (or any book for that matter).
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