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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #420 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 3:42am

For many years, well over a decade. The RIGHT have been trying to tell the LEFT: "Warning ⚠️ New Danger ahead." (and it's not Nazis or Confederates)

But the LEFT have labelled the RIGHT as insane and responded with denial "Move along. Nothing to see folks. It's still the USSR, Nazis and Confederates. Move along. "

So the RIGHT are just making all the right moves to prepare for what's up ahead, while the LEFT will die wondering. 🤔

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96880	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #421 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:34am No no, you weren't asked about LEFT or RIGHT. We asked you what Zalensky said that triggered you so. If you're still to angry to discuss, maybe come back after a nice rest. It's been a difficult few days, we know. It can't be easy coming out as a Russian asset. These are strange times for us all, dear.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #422 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:38am

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:34am:

No no, you weren't asked about LEFT or RIGHT. We asked you what Zalensky said that triggered you so.

If you're still to angry to discuss, maybe come back after a nice rest.

It's been a difficult few days, we know. It can't be easy coming out as a Russian asset.

These are strange times for us all, dear.

Karnal - you've been a naughty boy - once too often -

Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #423 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:47am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:38am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:34am:

No no, you weren't asked about LEFT or RIGHT. We asked you what Zalensky said that triggered you so.

If you're still to angry to discuss, maybe come back after a nice rest.

It's been a difficult few days, we know. It can't be easy coming out as a Russian asset.

These are strange times for us all, dear.

Karnal - you've been a naughty boy - once too often -

Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)

So cute, Bobby. Would you like a cuddle?

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #424 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:54am

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:38am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:34am:

No no, you weren't asked about LEFT or RIGHT. We asked you what Zalensky said that triggered you so.

If you're still to angry to discuss, maybe come back after a nice rest.

It's been a difficult few days, we know. It can't be easy coming out as a Russian asset.

These are strange times for us all, dear.

Karnal - you've been a naughty boy - once too often -

Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)

So cute, Bobby. Would you like a cuddle?

I'll let Amy give you a hug.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #425 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 6:11am

My thoughts?

It's the nukes that stopped Biden putting in a no-fly zone
and shooting down any Russian planes over Ukraine.
It's the nukes that stopped a massive 1991 Gulf war type response.
At one stage Biden was too scared to supply 40 odd tanks to Ukraine.
Ukraine still doesn't have a proper air force.
Ukraine was nobbled right from the start in 2022 by Biden.
Zelensky should have realised that he was only ever going to be given
just enough weapons to cause a stalemate and a huge loss of life,
over a long period of time in attritional warfare.
He should have told Biden in 2022 -

"you either give us what we really need or we'll surrender and Russia will
be right on the border of NATO – and you'll have to fight them – not us."

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #426 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 6:16am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:38am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 5:34am:

No no, you weren't asked about LEFT or RIGHT. We asked you what Zalensky said that triggered you so.

If you're still to angry to discuss, maybe come back after a nice rest.

It's been a difficult few days, we know. It can't be easy coming out as a Russian asset.

These are strange times for us all, dear.

Karnal - you've been a naughty boy - once too often -

Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah)
Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah)
Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah)
Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah)

Just when you give this dickhead a smidge to be taken seriously.
It's true colours shine through as nothing but a waste of anyone's time. Roll Eyes

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107422 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #427 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 11:47am Latest news. It's a deal! https://www.reuters.com/world/us-ukraine-prepare-sign-minerals-deal-tuesday-sour... March 5, 2025 10:27 AM GMT+11 Updated 2 hours ago Exclusive: US and Ukraine prepare to sign minerals deal soon, sources say
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107422 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #428 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 11:55am Trump speech to start any second: https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-congress-address-03-04-25/index...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75379 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #429 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am I think Zelensky should do a deal with the EU. .. and sign over all the mineral rights to them putin trump would have a heart attack
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 48058 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #430 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:01pm John Smith wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am: I think Zelensky should do a deal with the EU. .. and sign over all the mineral rights to them putin trump would have a heart attack My thoughts exactly! And Canada might join the EU.
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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #431 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:22pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

I think Zelensky should do a deal with the EU. .. and sign over all the mineral rights to them

putin trump would have a heart attack Grin

My thoughts exactly! And Canada might join the EU.

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Two idiots have the same "thought"!

Hilarious ! Grin

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #432 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:23pm

I think this explains the minerals deal and the Ukraine situation -

it's Realpolitik.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

Realpolitik

from German real 'realistic, practical, actual' and Politik 'politics')

is the approach of conducting diplomatic or political policies based primarily on considerations of given circumstances and factors, rather than strictly following ideological, moral, or ethical premises.

[1][2] In this respect, it shares aspects of its philosophical approach with those of realism and pragmatism.[3][4]

While generally used as a positive or neutral term, Realpolitik has been also used pejoratively to imply political policies that are perceived as being coercive, amoral, or Machiavellian.[5] Prominent proponents of Realpolitik include Otto von Bismarck, Henry Kissinger, George H.W. Bush, George F. Kennan, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Hans-Dietrich Genscher, Deng Xiaoping, Charles de Gaulle, and Lee Kuan Yew.[6] The opposite of Realpolitik is Idealpolitik.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13338 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #433 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:33pm The Congress is divided- on full display to the world: one member has already been ejected for interjecting on Trump... ...democrcacy.... The best bit of theatre so far has been Trump's acknowledgement of his beautiful wife..
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13338 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #434 - Mar 5^th, 2025 at 12:38pm ..come on, Donald, stop the bs about transgender sport, leave that to Dems; get back to cost of living and serious issues..
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