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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #90 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:42am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:33am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:26am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:23am:

The worst thing Zelensy could have done would have been to sign that deal with Yankists.

The ink wouldn't have been dry and the Yankists would've been taking it to Putin to sell it off for a better deal.

Good for Zelensky, he is going to continue with his war against Putin, more people will die.

Some things are worth dying for.

Would you die in defence of Australia? Or would you sell the country out so you can live on your knees?

Would I die for Australia when it would make no difference, NO I would not and I would protect my family before I protect another country. I can't do anything about Putin and nor can Trump or Zelensky or Europe. Are you prepared to have the world go to war where millions and millions of people will die, countries will be destroyed and peace will be decades away. All that to have NATO in Ukraine.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #91 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:43am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:41am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:27am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:21am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:17am:

What we are seeing is Zelensky's inability to get a deal. Its up to the people of Ukraine to decide if they want to get peace. Trump is just a mediator. Trump does not represent Ukraine or Russia, they have to make a deal not Trump.

What we're seeing is a world leader with the spine of Churchill...

A leader who'll defend his country over selling it down the river to Yankist trash.

Your confused, Zelensky needs to make a deal with Putin not Trump.

You're a halfwit... Dictators don't do deals where their survival depends on militaristic imperialism and the perception of strength and dominance over perceived weaker states.

Europe needs to amass troops along the Polish and Baltic borders to show Putin he will not be able to stay in Ukraine at any price he can afford.

Is Trump stopping them from doing that, what steps is Europe taking now after three years, what are they doing to stop the killing. What options have Europe put forward?

After this half-c~nted attempt at a stitch-up, I'd bet European leaders are going to find their inner Churchill...

Do you mean that Europe have been sitting on their hands for the last three years doing nothing except lip service.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #92 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:46am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:38am:

My bet is that Trump knew Zelensky wasn't going to sell his country down the river with a 'deal' before that meeting and set up Vance and that reporter, Brian Glenn, to hit Zelensky hard expecting he wouldn't be able to get up...

Trump got a shock when Zelensky, as all world leaders will soon be doing, stood up to him.

Yankists put him in power... but wait until their stock market crashes.

Yeah Europe and Zelensky have Putin on the ropes, why would they want peace when they have war. The money is just rolling in.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #93 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:47am

Putin could stop attacking Ukraine and remove his troops from their land....Anything less than this is surrender....Trump wants a Russian victory and Ukraines minerals....Trump will get nothing accept distain from most of the developed world for being a Russian sycophant....America is in decline and will gain nothing from ditching it's allies!!!

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #94 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:48am

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:41am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:27am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:21am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:17am:

What we are seeing is Zelensky's inability to get a deal. Its up to the people of Ukraine to decide if they want to get peace. Trump is just a mediator. Trump does not represent Ukraine or Russia, they have to make a deal not Trump.

What we're seeing is a world leader with the spine of Churchill...

A leader who'll defend his country over selling it down the river to Yankist trash.

Your confused, Zelensky needs to make a deal with Putin not Trump.

You're a halfwit... Dictators don't do deals where their survival depends on militaristic imperialism and the perception of strength and dominance over perceived weaker states.

Europe needs to amass troops along the Polish and Baltic borders to show Putin he will not be able to stay in Ukraine at any price he can afford.

Is Trump stopping them from doing that, what steps is Europe taking now after three years, what are they doing to stop the killing. What options have Europe put forward?

After this half-c~nted attempt at a stitch-up, I'd bet European leaders are going to find their inner Churchill...

Do you mean that Europe have been sitting on their hands for the last three years doing nothing except lip service.

Europe has paid billions to Ukraine's defence... European leaders in France, Poland, Sweden, Finland, the Baltics and others have been itching to take Putin on but have been held back by the US and its promise of a diplomatic solution out of a war all Europeans know is inevitable.

Now that the Yankists have revealed their hands and any 'deal' with Ukraine would be used as a bargaining chip for Putin to one-up, they've been liberated from Yankism.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13479 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #95 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:50am philperth2010 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:47am: Putin could stop attacking Ukraine and remove his troops from their land... That would be a death sentence for Putin and his regime. Couldn't happen quicker.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75369 Gender:	Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal Reply #96 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:50am Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:17am: What we are seeing is Zelensky's inability to get a deal. Whats wrong with you dumbarses? Giving up is not, nor has it ever been, 'making a deal'.
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Reply #97 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:51am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 5:57am:

Zelensky has embarrassed Trump in front of the whole world.

Trump's ego has taken a pounding.

What will the big guy do now?

WELL DONE Volodymyr Zelensky.

Volodymyr Zelensky is fighting......for the people of Ukraine.

QUESTION;
What else could Zelensky do ?

This present 'result' will strengthen Putin, ....and weaken all Western nations.

If the Ukraine resistance to Russian aggression 'fails'......

This could 'end' with us witnessing, 10's of millions of Ukrainian refugees,
overwhelming their western and northern [Poland] borders,
in an emergency evacuation of 'all' Ukrainians, into 'Europe',
with Putin IN POSSESSION OF ALL OF UKRAINE.
[and no Ukrainian rare earths for Donald ! ]

OR.....WWIII

Not so ?

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'Just say thank you':
Trump, Vance spar with Zelenskyy in tense meeting

11 min
February 28th, 2025

https://old.bitchute.com/video/PcrSepLOk4c/

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Ukrainian President Zelenskyy participates in a bilateral White House meeting with President Donald Trump and Vice President Vance, discussing the mineral deal and potential peace talks with Russia.

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Trump-Zelenskyy press conference cancelled

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February 28th, 2025

https://old.bitchute.com/video/G9iMxTkyVjE/

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Fox News anchors Bill Hemmer, Sandra Smith and Fox News contributor Karl Rove discuss the cancellation of President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s joint news conference after a heated exchange.

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WATCH:
Zelenskyy leaves White House after Trump 'kicked him out'

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February 28th, 2025

https://old.bitchute.com/video/Nh4ojeijk48/

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Fox News White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich provides details on the tensions between President Donald Trump and the Ukrainian president as Zelenskyy exits the White House early without signing a mineral deal.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #98 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:52am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:38am:

My bet is that Trump knew Zelensky wasn't going to sell his country down the river with a 'deal' before that meeting and set up Vance and that reporter, Brian Glenn, to hit Zelensky hard expecting he wouldn't be able to get up...

Trump got a shock when Zelensky, as all world leaders will soon be doing, stood up to him.

Yankists put him in power... but wait until their stock market crashes.

Trump has deserted America's Allies in Europe for Russia....Looks like America stand alone with Russia, China, North Korea and Iran....A new world order???

Huh

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #99 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:53am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:47am:

Putin could stop attacking Ukraine and remove his troops from their land....Anything less than this is surrender....Trump wants a Russian victory and Ukraines minerals....Trump will get nothing accept distain from most of the developed world for being a Russian sycophant....America is in decline and will gain nothing from ditching it's allies!!!

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What has Europe done to stop the war?

What did Biden do to stop the war?.

Oh thats right they called Putin names.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #100 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:29am:

You can't have a sane conversation - much less a negotiation - with a supremely arrogant narcissist like Trump. Any negotiation will invariably be about Trump, not Ukraine, and how it will make him look. .

Which was evidenced in just this meeting. Why Trump think Zelinski cares about the election campaign in the US while he is at war with Russia beggars belief. Only a halfwit would mention Hillary, Obama and Biden or even russiagate whilst trying to negotiate this peace deal

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Reply #102 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:58am

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:42am:

Would I die for Australia when it would make no difference, NO I would not and I would protect my family before I protect another country. I can't do anything about Putin and nor can Trump or Zelensky or Europe. Are you prepared to have the world go to war where millions and millions of people will die, countries will be destroyed and peace will be decades away. All that to have NATO in Ukraine.

What a surprise... the answer of a coward...

Who do you think Zelensky is protecting if not his family and his country?

You c~nts and your WW3 bullshit... No balls, just vague promises to protect your family, (who wouldn't?) and why you're not up for defending your country.

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #103 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:59am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:50am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:47am:

Putin could stop attacking Ukraine and remove his troops from their land...

That would be a death sentence for Putin and his regime.

Couldn't happen quicker.

Trump supporters now love Putin...A man of peace and freedom according to Trump....If Ukraine had not attacked Russia then there would be no war according to Trump....Putin is a Victim and Zelenski is an evil dictator (and ungratefull) according to Trump....Putin wants peace and Zelenski wants war according to Trump....Trump supporters would believe anything as long as it is bullshit!!!

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Re: Zelensky walks out - it's no deal
Reply #104 - Mar 1^st, 2025 at 10:03am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:58am:

Leroy wrote on Mar 1^st, 2025 at 9:42am:

Would I die for Australia when it would make no difference, NO I would not and I would protect my family before I protect another country. I can't do anything about Putin and nor can Trump or Zelensky or Europe. Are you prepared to have the world go to war where millions and millions of people will die, countries will be destroyed and peace will be decades away. All that to have NATO in Ukraine.

What a surprise... the answer of a coward...

Who do you think Zelensky is protecting if not his family and his country?

You c~nts and your WW3 bullshit... No balls, just vague promises to protect your family, (who wouldn't?) and why you're not up for defending your country.

If you are such an idiot that you would let a politician feed you into a meat grinder then good for you, I wouldn't. Call me a coward or a traitor or whatever you like but I'm not stupid.

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