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Reply #30 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:14pm
 
chimera wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 7:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:06pm:
n a hated global hegemony.

The US long-nose navy is the hated global hegemony.


Indeed, the developing  world is increasingly suspicious  of 'America First'. 

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China is buying Africa, South America and the port of Darwin.


It's called foreign investment, everyone does it. 


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Reply #31 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:57pm:
So Chinese warships are sailing around Australia, performing live fire exercises because they are looking inward.

Got it.
Ta.



You incapable of debate?

I explained the issues re Taiwan, and China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's
INTERNAL affairs
.  Please engage your brain.

Funny to see you - agreeing with Trump - wanting to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine, but negotiations re Taiwan 'sovereignty' are apparently off the table...why is that?

Note: Trump is obviously disinclined to start WW3 over Taiwan, which is inhabited by Chinese people and has never been an independent nation.

You are in more luck with Israel - the recently created US outpost in the ME - and Netanyahu's  intention to take all of Palestine; Trump only has to face ME ire (which he can easily do),  while the rest of the world isn't prepared to lift a finger to defend Palestine.   
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Reply #32 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:44pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:57pm:
So Chinese warships are sailing around Australia, performing live fire exercises because they are looking inward.

Got it.
Ta.



You incapable of debate?

I explained the issues re Taiwan, and China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's
INTERNAL affairs
.  Please engage your brain.

Funny to see you - agreeing with Trump - wanting to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine, but negotiations re Taiwan 'sovereignty' are apparently off the table...why is that?

Note: Trump is obviously disinclined to start WW3 over Taiwan, which is inhabited by Chinese people and has never been an independent nation.

You are in more luck with Israel - the recently created US outpost in the ME - and Netanyahu's  intention to take all of Palestine; Trump only has to face ME ire (which he can easily do),  while the rest of the world isn't prepared to lift a finger to defend Palestine.   



china will probably get taiwan

trump will get his minerals for his batteries and chips  from the ukraine instead

he cant land the first armoured division on taiwan...that would be rediculous.

so like a good lateral thinker, he has outframed the problem
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Reply #33 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 3:28pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:14pm:
chimera wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 7:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:06pm:
a hated global hegemony.

The US long-nose navy is the hated global hegemony.

China's global hegemony is internal, none of anyone's business and is doesn't exist.

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China is buying Africa, South America and the port of Darwin.


'It's called foreign investment, everyone does it.' 

Yes I know. They all have a Belt and Road, build railroads across Africa, invade north India, break bones of Vietnamese fishermen and install police training schools in other countries. It's all internal.  'China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's INTERNAL affairs'.  Canberra is internal to China.
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Reply #34 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 8:54pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:06pm:
chimera wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:37pm:
I expect China, at that time,  won't be interested in being a new global empire, rather playing a role in establishing a new universal prosperity.

Marla lives on cannabis. You too?


Why would China even want to defeat the US in a costly war (in terms of life and property on all sides) when/if it surpasses the US economy; surely  peace is a much more attractive option for China and the world, than a hated global hegemony.



both the americans and the chinese dont seem the types to expand their borders.

the chinese look inward and the yanks could have taken over europe and 1/2 of asia in 1945 if they wanted.

most of the european powers certainly would have


Strange. Chinese gunboats are currently doing operations off Taipei Harbour. A flotilla of Chinese warships just sailed past Sydney Harbour.


The strange - and sad thing - is your inability to analyze
"national self-interest", and then resort to the insanity of war to settle disputes arising from that self-interest.

[Interestingly, the anti-nuclear-weapons people are out in force in NY for  their week-long events calling for global nuclear disarmanent,  while Trump himself has said there are "too many nukes in the world", forcing the US to stay ahead in the nuclear arm race, thereby directing resources away from social welfare in the US: the US spends only 20% of GDP on social programs, cf, Europe's similar size economy which spends 25% of GDP on social welfare.  Cf, military spending: US - 3.5% of GDP,  Europe - 2%.]

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Yes, they were just 150 nautical miles from your quarter acre block in outer suburban Brisbane. Now why would the Chows be acting so bold, perhaps?


To dissuade you from "defending" Taiwan which is inhabited by Chinese people, and has never been an independent nation.

While  the Oz military are supposedly maintaining "freedom of passage" in the SCS including transits of the Taiwan Straits, when China -  the world' greatest trading nation -  itself needs that "freedom of passage"  to remain open.   

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Do you think the big fella's encouraging them to be look inwards? A little Zen meditation, perhaps?


No. Trump knows  a war with a nuclear power to "defend"  Tawain is insane. You want to risk WW3?

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No doubt DL's given Xi a copy of his favorite Sun Tzu, no?


No.  War is obsolete in the age of MAD, which was Trump's point to Zelensky. 



Oh-er, looks like we have a new MAGA recruit, leftards - by way of Beijing.

How does it feeeeeeel, Fwank? You're sharing your cabin with a Ching-Chong Chinaman.

All aboard, leftards. Broad church, innit.

Taiwan is currently an independent nation, Great. They have things called erections. You know, like jolly old Ukraine, who voted for Zalensky.

4%, according to DL. RIGGED !!!

He never should have started his naughty old war with Vlad, no? What a warmonger. There's JD and DL, pleading with the warmonger Zalensky. Give us your raw earth, DL said. We'll look out for you.

Yes, Zalensky said, but we'll need a security guarantee. Your miners would lose their shirts. Vlad would take the lot.

Don't you worry about that, DL said. Vlad would be too scared.

Excuse me, Zalensky said. Vlad's already broken 25 agreements, so we know.

Yes, but that was Sleepy Joe. He was half-dead. Totally incompetent.

Sorry, the last deal he broke was in 2020. We had a prisoner swap. Here - Zalensky showed photos. These are kids - 200,000, taken to Russia, placed with new parents and taught to forget their old ones. Look, this one's a pastor - he's even kidnapping priests, locking them up and torturing them.

So sad, DL said.

Look, JD said, don't be rude. Have you thanked DL once?

Sorry? Zalensky said.

For your earth. Here we are offering to take your minerals off your hands, JD said. We haven't heard you say thank you.

Thank you, Zalensky said.

DL didn't hear you, JD said. Say it louder - for the fake news.

I'm trying to explain, Zalensky said. You take our raw earth, Vlad will cheat you, then you'll know. You'll feel it.

No no, DL said, I've heard enough. You people need to mind your manners. You need to smile and say thanks for the fake news.

Yes, Zalensky said, but...

Don't interrupt, DL said. Don't tell us how we're going to feel. We're going to feel strong again. We're going to have so much raw earth, we'll be rolling in it. We will make America...

DL went on a bit after that, but they were done. DL chucked Zalensky and his interpreter out of the White House. They didn't even get to eat lunch.

So Great's happy. DL's not going to mess with any dictator's plans for world domination. Ukraine?

Gone. Next stop Poland. While Vlad does into Europe, that leaves Xi to take Taiwan, grab the South Pacific and encircle Australia.

Xi, Vlad and DL can discuss Stephen Covey next time they catch up for a round of golf.

A real "win-win", eh?

Ever get the feeeeeling?
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Reply #35 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 8:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:06pm:
chimera wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:37pm:
I expect China, at that time,  won't be interested in being a new global empire, rather playing a role in establishing a new universal prosperity.

Marla lives on cannabis. You too?


Why would China even want to defeat the US in a costly war (in terms of life and property on all sides) when/if it surpasses the US economy; surely  peace is a much more attractive option for China and the world, than a hated global hegemony.



both the americans and the chinese dont seem the types to expand their borders.

the chinese look inward and the yanks could have taken over europe and 1/2 of asia in 1945 if they wanted.

most of the european powers certainly would have


Strange. Chinese gunboats are currently doing operations off Taipei Harbour. A flotilla of Chinese warships just sailed past Sydney Harbour.


The strange - and sad thing - is your inability to analyze
"national self-interest", and then resort to the insanity of war to settle disputes arising from that self-interest.



While  the Oz military are supposedly maintaining "freedom of passage" in the SCS including transits of the Taiwan Straits, when China -  the world' greatest trading nation -  itself needs that "freedom of passage"  to remain open.   

Quote:
Do you think the big fella's encouraging them to be look inwards? A little Zen meditation, perhaps?


No. Trump knows  a war with a nuclear power to "defend"  Tawain is insane. You want to risk WW3?

Quote:
No doubt DL's given Xi a copy of his favorite Sun Tzu, no?


No.  War is obsolete in the age of MAD, which was Trump's point to Zelensky. 



Oh-er, looks like we have a new MAGA recruit, leftards - by way of Beijing.

How does it feeeeeeel, Fwank? You're sharing your cabin with a Ching-Chong Chinaman.

All aboard, leftards. Broad church, innit.

Taiwan is currently an independent nation, Great. They have things called erections. You know, like jolly old Ukraine, who voted for Zalensky.

4%, according to DL. RIGGED !!!

He never should have started his naughty old war with Vlad, no? What a warmonger. There's JD and DL, pleading with the warmonger Zalensky. Give us your raw earth, DL said. We'll look out for you.

Yes, Zalensky said, but we'll need a security guarantee. Your miners would lose their shirts. Vlad would take the lot.

Don't you worry about that, DL said. Vlad would be too scared.

Excuse me, Zalensky said. Vlad's already broken 25 agreements, so we know.

Yes, but that was Sleepy Joe. He was half-dead. Totally incompetent.

Sorry, the last deal he broke was in 2020. We had a prisoner swap. Here - Zalensky showed photos. These are kids - 200,000, taken to Russia, placed with new parents and taught to forget their old ones. Look, this one's a pastor - he's even kidnapping priests, locking them up and torturing them.

So sad, DL said.

Look, JD said, don't be rude. Have you thanked DL once?

Sorry? Zalensky said.

For your earth. Here we are offering to take your minerals off your hands, JD said. We haven't heard you say thank you.

Thank you, Zalensky said.

DL didn't hear you, JD said. Say it louder - for the fake news.

I'm trying to explain, Zalensky said. You take our raw earth, Vlad will cheat you, then you'll know. You'll feel it.

No no, DL said, I've heard enough. You people need to mind your manners. You need to smile and say thanks for the fake news.

Yes, Zalensky said, but...

Don't interrupt, DL said. Don't tell us how we're going to feel. We're going to feel strong again. We're going to have so much raw earth, we'll be rolling in it. We will make America...

DL went on a bit after that, but they were done. DL chucked Zalensky and his interpreter out of the White House. They didn't even get to eat lunch.

So Great's happy. DL's not going to mess with any dictator's plans for world domination. Ukraine?

Gone. Next stop Poland. While Vlad does into Europe, that leaves Xi to take Taiwan, grab the South Pacific and encircle Australia.

Xi, Vlad and DL can discuss Stephen Covey next time they catch up for a round of golf.

A real "win-win", eh?

Ever get the feeeeeling?



a bit much to read

so to summarise

if china wants taiwan , they can take it.

you think america is going to land the 1st armored division to defend it?

do you think biden would have?



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Reply #36 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 8:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 5:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 6:06pm:
chimera wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2nd, 2025 at 5:37pm:
I expect China, at that time,  won't be interested in being a new global empire, rather playing a role in establishing a new universal prosperity.

Marla lives on cannabis. You too?


Why would China even want to defeat the US in a costly war (in terms of life and property on all sides) when/if it surpasses the US economy; surely  peace is a much more attractive option for China and the world, than a hated global hegemony.



both the americans and the chinese dont seem the types to expand their borders.

the chinese look inward and the yanks could have taken over europe and 1/2 of asia in 1945 if they wanted.

most of the european powers certainly would have


Strange. Chinese gunboats are currently doing operations off Taipei Harbour. A flotilla of Chinese warships just sailed past Sydney Harbour.


The strange - and sad thing - is your inability to analyze
"national self-interest", and then resort to the insanity of war to settle disputes arising from that self-interest.

[Interestingly, the anti-nuclear-weapons people are out in force in NY for  their week-long events calling for global nuclear disarmanent,  while Trump himself has said there are "too many nukes in the world", forcing the US to stay ahead in the nuclear arm race, thereby directing resources away from social welfare in the US: the US spends only 20% of GDP on social programs, cf, Europe's similar size economy which spends 25% of GDP on social welfare.  Cf, military spending: US - 3.5% of GDP,  Europe - 2%.]

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Yes, they were just 150 nautical miles from your quarter acre block in outer suburban Brisbane. Now why would the Chows be acting so bold, perhaps?


To dissuade you from "defending" Taiwan which is inhabited by Chinese people, and has never been an independent nation.

While  the Oz military are supposedly maintaining "freedom of passage" in the SCS including transits of the Taiwan Straits, when China -  the world' greatest trading nation -  itself needs that "freedom of passage"  to remain open.   

Quote:
Do you think the big fella's encouraging them to be look inwards? A little Zen meditation, perhaps?


No. Trump knows  a war with a nuclear power to "defend"  Tawain is insane. You want to risk WW3?

Quote:
No doubt DL's given Xi a copy of his favorite Sun Tzu, no?


No.  War is obsolete in the age of MAD, which was Trump's point to Zelensky. 



Oh-er, looks like we have a new MAGA recruit, leftards - by way of Beijing.

How does it feeeeeeel, Fwank? You're sharing your cabin with a Ching-Chong Chinaman.

All aboard, leftards. Broad church, innit.

Taiwan is currently an independent nation, Great. They have things called erections. You know, like jolly old Ukraine, who voted for Zalensky.

4%, according to DL. RIGGED !!!

He never should have started his naughty old war with Vlad, no? What a warmonger. There's JD and DL, pleading with the warmonger Zalensky. Give us your raw earth, DL said. We'll look out for you.

Yes, Zalensky said, but we'll need a security guarantee. Your miners would lose their shirts. Vlad would take the lot.

Don't you worry about that, DL said. Vlad would be too scared.

Excuse me, Zalensky said. Vlad's already broken 25 agreements, so we know.

Yes, but that was Sleepy Joe. He was half-dead. Totally incompetent.

Sorry, the last deal he broke was in 2020. We had a prisoner swap. Here - Zalensky showed photos. These are kids - 200,000, taken to Russia, placed with new parents and taught to forget their old ones. Look, this one's a pastor - he's even kidnapping priests, locking them up and torturing them.

So sad, DL said.

Look, JD said, don't be rude. Have you thanked DL once?

Sorry? Zalensky said.

For your earth. Here we are offering to take your minerals off your hands, JD said. We haven't heard you say thank you.

Thank you, Zalensky said.

DL didn't hear you, JD said. Say it louder - for the fake news.

I'm trying to explain, Zalensky said. You take our raw earth, Vlad will cheat you, then you'll know. You'll feel it.

No no, DL said, I've heard enough. You people need to mind your manners. You need to smile and say thanks for the fake news.

Yes, Zalensky said, but...

Don't interrupt, DL said. Don't tell us how we're going to feel. We're going to feel strong again. We're going to have so much raw earth, we'll be rolling in it. We will make America...

DL went on a bit after that, but they were done. DL chucked Zalensky and his interpreter out of the White House. They didn't even get to eat lunch.

So Great's happy. DL's not going to mess with any dictator's plans for world domination. Ukraine?

Gone. Next stop Poland. While Vlad does into Europe, that leaves Xi to take Taiwan, grab the South Pacific and encircle Australia.

Xi, Vlad and DL can discuss Stephen Covey next time they catch up for a round of golf.

A real "win-win", eh?

Ever get the feeeeeling?

Do go on....
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Reply #37 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:57pm:
So Chinese warships are sailing around Australia, performing live fire exercises because they are looking inward.

Got it.
Ta.



You incapable of debate?

I explained the issues re Taiwan, and China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's
INTERNAL affairs
.  Please engage your brain.

Funny to see you - agreeing with Trump - wanting to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine, but negotiations re Taiwan 'sovereignty' are apparently off the table...why is that?

Note: Trump is obviously disinclined to start WW3 over Taiwan, which is inhabited by Chinese people and has never been an independent nation.

You are in more luck with Israel - the recently created US outpost in the ME - and Netanyahu's  intention to take all of Palestine; Trump only has to face ME ire (which he can easily do),  while the rest of the world isn't prepared to lift a finger to defend Palestine.   



china will probably get taiwan

trump will get his minerals for his batteries and chips  from the ukraine instead

he cant land the first armoured division on taiwan...that would be rediculous.

so like a good lateral thinker, he has outframed the problem


There, you see? Aquascoot gets it. He's been "paying attention". He digs the "new paradigm".

Vlad gets Eastern Europe, Chi-na will probably get Taiwan.

Then, the South China Sea, the South Pacific and a nice big fee for all our ships.

DL gets Greenland and Panama, and Canada becomes the 51st state of the USA.

Sorry - territory. We wouldn't want those leftist Canadians getting a vote.

That would be rediculous.
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a bit much to read

so to summarise

if china wants taiwan , they can take it.

you think america is going to land the 1st armored division to defend it?

do you think biden would have?


That's a question. An uncomfortable read?

We can't help you there, dear.

Chi-na's "paying attention". It's tuning into the "new paradigm".

That's where DL helps Vlad and Xi seize their new empires. In return, they let him grab his.

Do you deny it?

Either way, with your suburb surrounded on all sides, your DL's extra 25% tax, the shipping fees Xi decides to add on and war in the Pacific and Europe, be at peace.

We will make America great again, no?
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Reply #39 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 10:20pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:57pm:
So Chinese warships are sailing around Australia, performing live fire exercises because they are looking inward.

Got it.
Ta.



You incapable of debate?

I explained the issues re Taiwan, and China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's
INTERNAL affairs
.  Please engage your brain.

Funny to see you - agreeing with Trump - wanting to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine, but negotiations re Taiwan 'sovereignty' are apparently off the table...why is that?

Note: Trump is obviously disinclined to start WW3 over Taiwan, which is inhabited by Chinese people and has never been an independent nation.

You are in more luck with Israel - the recently created US outpost in the ME - and Netanyahu's  intention to take all of Palestine; Trump only has to face ME ire (which he can easily do),  while the rest of the world isn't prepared to lift a finger to defend Palestine.   



china will probably get taiwan

trump will get his minerals for his batteries and chips  from the ukraine instead

he cant land the first armoured division on taiwan...that would be rediculous.

so like a good lateral thinker, he has outframed the problem


There, you see? Aquascoot gets it. He's been "paying attention". He digs the "new paradigm".

Vlad gets Eastern Europe, Chi-na will probably get Taiwan.

Then, the South China Sea, the South Pacific and a nice big fee for all our ships.

DL gets Greenland and Panama, and Canada becomes the 51st state of the USA.

Sorry - territory. We wouldn't want those leftist Canadians getting a vote.

That would be rediculous.



what was rediculous was seeing trudeau lined up with the idiots from europe thinking THEY can do a deal.

vlad wont deal with those cretins

only with donald

how did donald manage to make himself so critical to any deal?

could it be that unlike previous president metamucil, he understands how deals are done?

as head of USA pty ltd, he understands hostile takeovers and asset stripping.?

that he is going to get the best possible deal for his shareholders (the people of "real" america) and all the other posers can piss off back to whatever rock they crawled out from under
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Trumpy has NO idea as to how deals are done.

Trumpy can meet Putler hundreds of times. He has no influence over Ukraine any more. He only had influence while supplying out-of-date or clapped out weapons to Ukraine.
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Reply #41 - Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 10:20pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:57pm:
So Chinese warships are sailing around Australia, performing live fire exercises because they are looking inward.

Got it.
Ta.



You incapable of debate?

I explained the issues re Taiwan, and China's need to dissuade you from sticking your nose into China's
INTERNAL affairs
.  Please engage your brain.

Funny to see you - agreeing with Trump - wanting to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine, but negotiations re Taiwan 'sovereignty' are apparently off the table...why is that?

Note: Trump is obviously disinclined to start WW3 over Taiwan, which is inhabited by Chinese people and has never been an independent nation.

You are in more luck with Israel - the recently created US outpost in the ME - and Netanyahu's  intention to take all of Palestine; Trump only has to face ME ire (which he can easily do),  while the rest of the world isn't prepared to lift a finger to defend Palestine.   



china will probably get taiwan

trump will get his minerals for his batteries and chips  from the ukraine instead

he cant land the first armoured division on taiwan...that would be rediculous.

so like a good lateral thinker, he has outframed the problem


There, you see? Aquascoot gets it. He's been "paying attention". He digs the "new paradigm".

Vlad gets Eastern Europe, Chi-na will probably get Taiwan.

Then, the South China Sea, the South Pacific and a nice big fee for all our ships.

DL gets Greenland and Panama, and Canada becomes the 51st state of the USA.

Sorry - territory. We wouldn't want those leftist Canadians getting a vote.

That would be rediculous.



what was rediculous was seeing trudeau lined up with the idiots from europe thinking THEY can do a deal.

vlad wont deal with those cretins

only with donald

how did donald manage to make himself so critical to any deal?

could it be that unlike previous president metamucil, he understands how deals are done?

as head of USA pty ltd, he understands hostile takeovers and asset stripping.?

that he is going to get the best possible deal for his shareholders (the people of "real" america) and all the other posers can piss off back to whatever rock they crawled out from under


Vlad isn't dealing with anyone, you rediculous old fool - only your DL.

Ukraine needs defending. The new coalition will do that. DL's out. Ukraine can sign their raw earth over to the EU.

Day One's done, dear. The Great Negotiator can invite Vlad round for 18 holes.

And you can wave at Xi's warships from the top paddock.

STOP THE BOATS !!!


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For Karnal - that was a good one....

Monk's back - guess he got over the moderators Big Fat Geek Weeding.... welcome back, Monk ... I hate to see a young man get into trouble...  now where's mothra for a monster mash?
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Re: One For Meister.
Reply #43 - Mar 4th, 2025 at 12:09am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 10:28pm:
Trumpy has NO idea as to how deals are done.

Trumpy can meet Putler hundreds of times. He has no influence over Ukraine any more. He only had influence while supplying out-of-date or clapped out weapons to Ukraine.


No no, he does, Monk. You get Vlad and Zalensky in a room, remember? You don't let em out until they're done. If Vlad doesn't budge, you say, Vladimir...

Actually, DL didn't say what he'd do after that, but it didn't sound nice.

Turned out DL went with another tactic, as you do. He went with the strategy where you get Vlad in a room, cancel his sanctions and give him all his money back.

He then got Zalensky in another room and tried to make him say thanks.

Anyway, Zalensky stormed off to England in a huff and signed a deal with the Euros instead. Problem solved, no?

Well, no. Now DL's gotta deal with Xi. Before long, he'll need to deal with his little buddy Kim, Bibi, MBS and the Mullahs, all starting their new Endless Wars and getting up to no good.

And that's okay. DL can invite them all over to the White House and vet them for manners. The Saudis better wear suits. Kim will need to get a proper hair cut. And no Mao suits for Xi.

JD will be checking, like a private school perfect. Did you say thank you?

Good. We wouldn't want anybody starting WWIII and running off to England, now would we?

The fake news would give DL hell.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!
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Re: One For Meister.
Reply #44 - Mar 4th, 2025 at 7:58am
 
Sir Keir said Britain, France and Ukraine had agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States on Thursday.

Mr Trump is yet to respond personally to the UK leaders summit.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-03/europe-ukraine-peace-plan-as-it-happened/...


shurely shome mishtake.  The Entante Cordiale can do it alone, no?

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