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Reply #15 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:50pm

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:48pm:

Reduced demand. Have you forgotten how it works again Lee?

Reduced demand for electricity? Roll Eyes

From my addendum to my last post -

According to the IPCC about 0.0008C per Gt or 1,000MT. Australia's emissions less than 450Mt. So since 2012, 13 years we would have achieved 6.5 times 0.0008C reduction.

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Reply #16 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:55pm

Leroy wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:41pm:

We should have a had a shiny new large coal fired station in every State by now -

all burning low emission Anthracite coal from QLD.

Instead - we will suffer blackouts like a 3rd world country.

Not so, third world countries are lining up to build coal powered power stations, the Philippines have just moved to add to their coal plants. They have agreed to ban coal plants having 28 of them. But they tricked everyone because they have approved 22 more which are not affected by the ban.

So yes you will have power cuts but not like in the third world countries because they will have reliable coal and no blackouts.

Australia is run by over paid nincompoops.

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Reply #17 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 8:01pm

Regarding emissions, India has invested in electric freight and fast passenger locomotives.by the thousands.
‘’ 37% of the trains are operated by diesel locomotives and rest mostly by electric locomotives. As of December 2023, Indian Railways had 10,238 electric and 4,543 diesel locomotives amongst others.’’
Australia appears to have none, I remember electric locomotives in NSW but they have all disappeared.
Rumour has it that they are on a back siding at Werris Creek, but they may have been quietly scrapped.

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Reply #18 - Mar 6^th, 2025 at 8:03pm

lee wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:48pm:

Reduced demand. Have you forgotten how it works again Lee?

Reduced demand for electricity? Roll Eyes

From my addendum to my last post -

According to the IPCC about 0.0008C per Gt or 1,000MT. Australia's emissions less than 450Mt. So since 2012, 13 years we would have achieved 6.5 times 0.0008C reduction.

The most efficient way to burn coal is at full load, when coal boilers are run at reduced loads the emissions are a lot worse. To reduce emissions the plant should run at design load.

They passed over the best solution in the nineties, scrubbers on the back end of coal plants to capture the CO2, it was expensive but with hindsight it is cheap compared to renewables.

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Reply #19 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 9:09am

lee wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2025 at 7:48pm:

Reduced demand. Have you forgotten how it works again Lee?

Reduced demand for electricity? Roll Eyes

From my addendum to my last post -

According to the IPCC about 0.0008C per Gt or 1,000MT. Australia's emissions less than 450Mt. So since 2012, 13 years we would have achieved 6.5 times 0.0008C reduction.

Congratulations Lee. You have figured out that there are a lot of people on Earth. You cannot save the planet all by yourself.

Is it time to start emptying the rubbish bins onto the street? Or should we just vote LNP?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18115 Gender:	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #20 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:19pm Well done FD. No clue on what "reduced demand" means, but hey it is mantra. Reduced demand due to EV's? Reduced demand due to electrification of the home, rather than gas? Reduced demand due to large data centres?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49572 At my desk.	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #21 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:26pm Quote: No clue on what "reduced demand" means Have you ever heard of economics? The LNP hasn't.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18115 Gender:	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #22 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:31pm freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:26pm: Quote: No clue on what "reduced demand" means Have you ever heard of economics? The LNP hasn't. So still no clue. Just another one of your ridiculous non-answers.
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Reply #23 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 2:09pm

lee wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:

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No clue on what "reduced demand" means

Have you ever heard of economics? The LNP hasn't.

So still no clue. Just another one of your ridiculous non-answers. Grin

So you've never even heard of economics? But you make up for that by being a die hard LNP supporter?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18115 Gender:	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #24 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 2:43pm More obfuscation. Why don't you answer the question? Not game?
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Reply #25 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 2:52pm

lee wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

More obfuscation. Why don't you answer the question? Not game? Grin

It was a statement, not a question. You have no clue what reduced demand means. You have no clue what economics is.

But if you want to turn it into a question, then yes, I agree that you have no clue.

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Reply #26 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 3:08pm

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 2:52pm:

You have no clue what reduced demand means.

Well as you haven't defined what you meant, NO. But a normal definition of reduced demand would be reduced demand for energy, as that is what we are talking about. Roll Eyes

And I did post questions to which you didn't respond.

lee wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:19pm:

Reduced demand due to EV's? Reduced demand due to electrification of the home, rather than gas? Reduced demand due to large data centres?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49572 At my desk.	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #27 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 3:20pm Quote: But a normal definition of reduced demand would be reduced demand for energy, as that is what we are talking about. A reduced demand for GHG emissions.
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Reply #28 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 3:45pm

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 3:20pm:

A reduced demand for GHG emissions.

There is a reduced demand for GHG emissions? You mean you want to lower CO2 back to the starvation levels of the LIA? Grin

There were far more famines during the LIA than now. That's why life expectancy was short. Roll Eyes

But good to see you walked back from your claim of NO question(s). Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49572 At my desk.	Re: biggest coal powered station, 'driving up energy Reply #29 - Mar 7^th, 2025 at 3:58pm Quote: There is a reduced demand for GHG emissions? You have been confused for so long Lee that you have forgotten what you are confused about.
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