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Mar 22nd, 2025 at 9:42am
 
ACCC supermarket report   Sad
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The ACCC’s report on the supermarket duopoly’s market domination and price gouging once again highlights the need to make price gouging illegal and for economy-wide divestiture powers, the Greens say.

“The ACCC has confirmed what Australians already know: Coles and Woolworths have an iron grip on the supermarket sector, and they are using it to rip people off,” Greens Economic Justice Spokesperson Senator Nick McKim said.

“They have confirmed that supermarkets are price gouging, that the sector lacks competition, and that they are among the most profitable supermarkets in the world.”

“This is why Australia needs divestiture powers and laws that make price gouging illegal.”

“Without laws to force more competition and make price gouging illegal, the supermarket duopoly will keep driving up grocery prices while raking in billions of dollars in profits.

“The Greens-led Senate inquiry put supermarket price gouging on the agenda and exposed the brutal reality of how Coles and Woolworths are exploiting their market power.

“The ACCC’s findings only reinforce what the Senate inquiry found about the duopoly’s market dominance and how everyday Australians are paying the price.”

“The political duopoly has long protected the supermarket duopoly at the expense of people who are struggling to afford basic groceries. The onus is now on them to take action.

“They talk tough but refuse to back the laws we need to bring prices down.”

“We need strong, anti-price gouging laws and divestiture powers to break up monopolies and duopolies that are squeezing people dry.”

“The Greens have legislation ready to go, Labor and the Coalition just need to find the political will to stand up to their corporate mates.”
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 9:46am
 
whiteknight wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 9:42am:
ACCC supermarket report   Sad
2025-03-21
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The ACCC’s report on the supermarket duopoly’s market domination and price gouging once again highlights the need to make price gouging illegal and for economy-wide divestiture powers, the Greens say.

“The ACCC has confirmed what Australians already know: Coles and Woolworths have an iron grip on the supermarket sector, and they are using it to rip people off,” Greens Economic Justice Spokesperson Senator Nick McKim said.

“They have confirmed that supermarkets are price gouging, that the sector lacks competition, and that they are among the most profitable supermarkets in the world.”

“This is why Australia needs divestiture powers and laws that make price gouging illegal.”

“Without laws to force more competition and make price gouging illegal, the supermarket duopoly will keep driving up grocery prices while raking in billions of dollars in profits.

“The Greens-led Senate inquiry put supermarket price gouging on the agenda and exposed the brutal reality of how Coles and Woolworths are exploiting their market power.

“The ACCC’s findings only reinforce what the Senate inquiry found about the duopoly’s market dominance and how everyday Australians are paying the price.”

“The political duopoly has long protected the supermarket duopoly at the expense of people who are struggling to afford basic groceries. The onus is now on them to take action.

“They talk tough but refuse to back the laws we need to bring prices down.”

“We need strong, anti-price gouging laws and divestiture powers to break up monopolies and duopolies that are squeezing people dry.”

“The Greens have legislation ready to go, Labor and the Coalition just need to find the political will to stand up to their corporate mates.”


You can always shop at your local deli.
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 9:48am
 
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The ACCC’s report on the supermarket duopoly’s market domination


It is not a duopoly. You started another thread on this, but could not even tell us what price gouging is. The Greens cannot either. You cannot outlaw something if you cannot define it.
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 10:01am
 
It could be a duopoly or oligopoly or polyvinyl, nobody cares. Maybe price gouging, price gagging or priceless, a special today gone tomorrow. Hard to say, really. Could be eh?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-21/accc-supermarkets-inquiry-key-takeaways-c...

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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 10:25am
 
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It could be a duopoly or oligopoly or polyvinyl, nobody cares.


The ACCC would not bother to investigate if it was an efficient market.
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 10:37am
 
inefficient = price gouging
wholesale lamb carcase $160.
retail lamb gouge          $350.
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 12:15pm
 
I've never even seen a whole lamb in woolies.
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 12:28pm
 
Ironically, the smaller chains like Foodworks, IGA and local Delis charge way more for same items than Woolworths and Coles.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 12:36pm
 
IGA does have some very cheap beef.
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 12:15pm:
I've never even seen a whole lamb in woolies.


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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:26pm
 
That's Aldi numbnuts. Woolies is green trolleys
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:36pm
 
Also, it is outside.

Can anyone tell us what price gouging is? Other than charging a different price to whatever the communists in the Greens party want to set the price to?

Or will WK have to start another thread now that I have spoiled this one.
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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Can anyone tell us what price gouging is?



I posted their rough definition earlier.

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Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:42pm
 

Here it is again:

To determine whether a price is excessive, the Bill requires the Court to consider the price of the product if the corporation did not have substantial market power.

The definition of an excessive price is deliberately kept broad to provide the courts the discretion to determine whether price gouging has occurred based on the circumstances of the case, noting that different industries will have different thresholds for what is considered an excessive price.

However, it is recommended that in making a determination, the courts consider:

- Whether the price is excessive relative to cost

- Whether the price is excessive relative to the economic value of the product provided

- Whether the price is excessive compared to if there was greater competition in the market

- Whether a corporation has used the cover of an unusual event that has led to a shortage of a good or service or where there is excessive demand for a good or service, to increase prices above what is required to cover an increase in input costs.
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Reply #14 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:44pm
 
So Woolies and Coles are gouging, but the more expensive Independent or smaller chains and corner shops are not?

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