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Reply #30 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 6:03pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 10:49am:
I'm going to vote Trumpet of Patriots in the Senate. They would be hilarious.  Grin


I have been trying to block all their lying adds.

There is no worse vote than that one. The adds alone make me sick.

It's like pissing your pants you may think its warm for a very short time.
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Reply #31 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 6:20pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 1st, 2025 at 6:03pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 10:49am:
I'm going to vote Trumpet of Patriots in the Senate. They would be hilarious.  Grin


I have been trying to block all their lying adds.

There is no worse vote than that one. The adds alone make me sick.

It's like pissing your pants you may think its warm for a very short time.


Oh that’s enough to place them second on my voting/ clown selector paper!

Clive always took the piss😂

Collecting half a million pa last time elected and couldn’t be bothered too even show up in Canberra🤣🤣🤣

JStill got paid. I think the point he made was too much for the mainstream media to consider?
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Reply #32 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 7:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 1st, 2025 at 5:00pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 12:12pm:
Rennick is an absolute nutcase.


I have listened to him in senate inquiries i think he is well above average for our politicians.

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The hard questions never get answered do they.

This is typical of how press conferences work.

You only get to ask questions they want to answer.

That’s how you get an invite as a journalist, don’t ask the hard questions.

Perfect example of how the establishment media and the establishment politicians behave.

It’s all a stage.

Housing for young people is one of the most important issues of this election.

If Albanese cared about it and had a solution for it, he could have answered it.


https://x.com/SenatorRennick/status/1906836413015789650


AnAl never answered that question the young man was thrown out and branded a far right nazi


He seems completely sane so long as you do not pay any attention to the details.
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Reply #33 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 8:26pm
 
Well - the government that loves to hate me is employing me again to do the election - those in the know will understand the two way street there..... and I'm still thinking about who to vote for - I KNOW it will be none of the major party groups ... which leaves a couple of Independents...

One is a country lad born and bred ... If I was up north I'd vote for that Caz sheila - the nurse.

I oppose feminism - I do not oppose women.......... but since feminism and Party women are interlocked in a death embrace - I will not vote for Party women ... so party on without me, dudesses and dudes.
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Reply #34 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 8:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2025 at 7:43pm:
He seems completely sane so long as you do not pay any attention to the details.


He wants to hand over all 'native title' as freehold - has he actually looked at what is 'held' under 'native title'?

Hier iss der news - I wrote this to a lady in Israel who posted about Arabs and Israel and who occupies and owns etc:-

We have the same problem here - my antecedents came here in the 1850’s, my children and grand-children were all born here… we are now being told we are ‘guests’ in our own country.

Our ‘Indigenous’ who are the result of consecutive waves of ‘invasion' going back for centuries - meaning there are no real ‘First Peoples’ here - are attempting to put across that all we latter settlers etc, regardless of generations etc, are nothing but guests in our own country. A university law program - believe this - actually demanded that each student create a ‘welcome to country’ or fail, and children in a school were asked to raise their hands if they were White or recent immigrants - and then were told that those in that category were only ‘guests’ here at the whim of the ‘residents’ - whose tenure has been long gone.

This has lead to me leading the way for a Two State Solution for ‘us and them’ - those who do not wish to be part of our modern nation can go there voluntarily - and take all their criminals with them by court order.

We cannot persist with two ‘states’ functioning side by side = segregation - and we cannot accept their demands for ‘control over land, water and resources’ = the life’s blood of the nation - and their endless demands for both huge chunks of land to cater to the past meandering - not settlements - of groups of no more than fifty or so, AND their demands for their own laws to be used here for them.

Under that set of demands - and I do not give in to demands (‘Nuts’) - I see the best solution, in the end, is a Two State Policy with a Homeland set aside for them to romp as they choose.


Now bring me some REAL hatred, you wooses....   Cool
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Re: Other options to vote for than the duopoly lab/lib
Reply #35 - Apr 2nd, 2025 at 7:38am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 4:52pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 2:56pm:
We’ll ask the people who vote for Barnaby Joyce, Tony abbot, mark Latham?


i did ... all they could come up with was 'it's not labor'  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeah, their brainwashing is deep.

We've seen in this thread, they'll even vote for the guy from Afganistan over Labor, and we know how much they loooove immigrants.
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Reply #36 - Apr 26th, 2025 at 10:48am
 
Australians, at least those with their thinking caps on, will not need reminding that elections here are meaningless affairs, representative democracy-wise. They are contested by two undeserving branches of the UniParty that together struggle to get two thirds of the primary vote. They bury important issues. They reduce policy debate to the lowest common denominator. In doing so, they bring the major parties even closer to one another than they normally are. And the legacy media steers the conversation ever towards the UniParty.


On reflection, Oz elections are much worse than simply meaningless. They are occasions of electoral sin.

The May 3 2025 election is a shameless auction, even worse than most. It has the usual ingredients. Non-problems consuming attention and dollars. Real problems – such as the deep household recession, the ghastly fruits of mass immigration, the crashing of our energy economy, fiscal incontinence on a grand scale, rampant and largely unchecked anti-Semitism, ongoing attacks on free speech, endless wokism and Aboriginal ‘welcomes-to-country’ – being parked. Promises that will be broken at will ‘as circumstances change’. Inevitable, unmandated actions forthcoming. More rule by the unelected bureaucrats of the managerial class.


Australians with the inclination and nous to build alternate, winning coalitions of alt-parties with a sense of what we-the-people want from government seem totally unable to do so.  The splintered alt-right is more splintered than ever, with yet new micro-parties emerging. They have names like the Libertarian Party, Family First, the Family Party – yes, there are even two ‘family’ parties – People First, One Nation (think Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts), and – yes, this true – Trumpet of Patriots, the closest thing we have to an unapologetic MAGA party; though led by the quirky, outsider, billionaire miner, Clive Palmer, an absolute Covid hero to boot, still destined to remain very, very micro, alas.


So there are no compelling, larger-than-life leaders to excite us, even to distract us, this time around. No Trump, of course. No Orban. No Milei. No Meloni. No Farage (even with all his now-manifest shortcomings). No need to ‘make Australia great again’.

We are fine, apparently. But we aren’t! Professor David Flint in the Spectator Australia argues that we are crying out for new leadership: ‘Not since the fall of Singapore has there been such apprehension about the future of Australia.’



What the ‘club sensible’ centre of the electorate fears more than anything else is the return of Albanese but with minority government status. Because of the concentration of progressive greenies in inner-urban electorates, the Greens and the mostly rich, woke, climate action-obsessed women who are known as ‘the Teals’ are able to win a goodly number of seats. The thought of this lot – think of a bunch of female, climate-botherer Keir Starmers – bargaining with Labor for their preferred ‘vision’ and shopping list of demonic actions is beyond disastrous.
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Reply #37 - Apr 26th, 2025 at 11:00am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 10:48am:
Australians, at least those with their thinking caps on, will not need reminding that elections here are meaningless affairs, representative democracy-wise. They are contested by two undeserving branches of the UniParty that together struggle to get two thirds of the primary vote. They bury important issues. They reduce policy debate to the lowest common denominator. In doing so, they bring the major parties even closer to one another than they normally are. And the legacy media steers the conversation ever towards the UniParty.


On reflection, Oz elections are much worse than simply meaningless. They are occasions of electoral sin.

The May 3 2025 election is a shameless auction, even worse than most. It has the usual ingredients. Non-problems consuming attention and dollars. Real problems – such as the deep household recession, the ghastly fruits of mass immigration, the crashing of our energy economy, fiscal incontinence on a grand scale, rampant and largely unchecked anti-Semitism, ongoing attacks on free speech, endless wokism and Aboriginal ‘welcomes-to-country’ – being parked. Promises that will be broken at will ‘as circumstances change’. Inevitable, unmandated actions forthcoming. More rule by the unelected bureaucrats of the managerial class.


Australians with the inclination and nous to build alternate, winning coalitions of alt-parties with a sense of what we-the-people want from government seem totally unable to do so.  The splintered alt-right is more splintered than ever, with yet new micro-parties emerging. They have names like the Libertarian Party, Family First, the Family Party – yes, there are even two ‘family’ parties – People First, One Nation (think Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts), and – yes, this true – Trumpet of Patriots, the closest thing we have to an unapologetic MAGA party; though led by the quirky, outsider, billionaire miner, Clive Palmer, an absolute Covid hero to boot, still destined to remain very, very micro, alas.


So there are no compelling, larger-than-life leaders to excite us, even to distract us, this time around. No Trump, of course. No Orban. No Milei. No Meloni. No Farage (even with all his now-manifest shortcomings). No need to ‘make Australia great again’.

We are fine, apparently. But we aren’t! Professor David Flint in the Spectator Australia argues that we are crying out for new leadership: ‘Not since the fall of Singapore has there been such apprehension about the future of Australia.’



What the ‘club sensible’ centre of the electorate fears more than anything else is the return of Albanese but with minority government status. Because of the concentration of progressive greenies in inner-urban electorates, the Greens and the mostly rich, woke, climate action-obsessed women who are known as ‘the Teals’ are able to win a goodly number of seats. The thought of this lot – think of a bunch of female, climate-botherer Keir Starmers – bargaining with Labor for their preferred ‘vision’ and shopping list of demonic actions is beyond disastrous.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/who-to-vote-for-nonentity-or-nobody/



We cannot vote our way out of the Western mess. The 2025 Australian election is living proof of the truth of his claim. Whoever wins here will inherit an unholy mess, and will not have the will to address it.


Of course, he could be talking about next week's Canadian election or last month's German election. As we have noted, Fred Merz, the incoming chancellor in Berlin, has yet to take office but what Americans call the honeymoon is over before the coalition has been officially pronounced man and wife. Hermann Binkert, head honcho of Germany's INSA polling agency, says the country has never seen loss of approval on this scale between the election and the formation of the government. The so-called "far-right" AfD is now leading in multiple polls. Which would be super-exciting if voting hadn't already taken place.

In America, the new administration certainly has the "will to address" the "unholy mess" but the Trumpian Gulliver is beset on all sides by District Court Lilliputians whose position is that what a Democrat president has done cannot "lawfully" be undone. This is a pseudo-"constitutional" recognition of the practical reality of electoral politics throughout the west: the choice is between a Leftward Ho! party and a Ratchet party. If the Left wins, they dissolve the border and trannify your kids. If the "Right" wins (Stephen Harper, Scott Morrison), they may pause some of the more obviously crazy stuff but they never actually reverse the direction of travel. Unless they're the UK Tories (Cameron, May, Johnson, Sunak), in which case they stay in the leftie lane without even shifting down to third gear.
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Reply #38 - Apr 26th, 2025 at 1:22pm
 
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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