ON YA TONY.. HOME FOR CHRISTMAS

THE LABRATS WONT LIKE THAT.. GILLARD PROMISED 2014..

BUT US LIBS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND

HAPPY CHRISTMAS.







NATIONAL NEWS
Prime Minister Tony Abbott pulls troops out of Oruzgan Province, Afghanistan
STAFF WRITER NEWS LIMITED NETWORK DECEMBER 16, 2013 1:54PM

Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oru...
Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oruzgan Province. Source: Supplied
PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says the last Australian soldier has left Oruzgan Province in Afghanistan.

Canberra Defence Minister David Johnston said the last troops left Oruzgan yesterday.

"They are in the air on the way home,'' he told reporters in Sydney.

Mr Abbott thanked the soldiers for their service, saying they had paid a high price with 40 dead and 261 seriously wounded.

"Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.

All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN

The do-gooders will start screaming DO SOMETHING when the Taliban start chopping heads off . The poor downtrodden Afghan female has  dark clouds coming their way.

Let's leave the politics on this for another day.
Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound.

I agree...lets get our people out if that hell hole asap and hope that no one is stupid enough to ever send them back there.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:

Let's leave the politics on this for another day. Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound.

I'm happy to leave 'the politics' right here.  Abbott cannot claim credit for this event, and stuffed if anyone ought allow him to.  If cods reckons he legitimately can, then she should also blame Abbott for the current deficit.

Our departure from Afghanistan was decided long ago, and the logistics of that have been in progress prior to the last election.

bugger off Phoney.  This has zero to do with you.

They did a great job. It's just a pity more people didn't get behind them. Afghanistan could of been turned into a decent place to live.

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:43pm: Let's leave the politics on this for another day. Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound. I'm happy to leave 'the politics' right here.  Abbott cannot claim credit for this event, and stuffed if anyone ought allow him to.  If cods reckons he legitimately can, then she should also blame Abbott for the current deficit. Our departure from Afghanistan was decided long ago, and the logistics of that have been in progress prior to the last election. bugger off Phoney.  This has zero to do with you.

True Aussie, but what would you have them do, ask Gillard to announce it?  He is the pm of the day. He can't claim credit but he can announce it,  and let's just be happy about the announcement.  Tomorrow is another day.

True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there.  We just will not hear about it anymore.

Why did we go there?

"To make big rocks into little rocks."

Thanks Hayseed.

Quote:

http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-diggers-are-coming-home-from-afghanistan-by-christmas/story-fncynjr2-1226607139158 MOST of Australia's 1600 troops will be home from Afghanistan by Christmas, but our defence chief has warned the war-ravaged nation remains rife with corruption.    Hundreds of millions of dollars will be saved after yesterday's announcement the majority of Australia's troops would leave Afghanistan a year earlier than expected.

Both the ALP and Coalition supported the war in Afghanistan so the OP has shown a complete lack of substance as usual.....Trying to score political points over this issue shows a complete lack of respect for the job our soldiers did on behalf of all Australians!!!

>:( >:( >:(

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-announces-last-australian-troops-leave-oruzgan-20131216-2zgnn.html

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

I'm happy to leave 'the politics' right here.

...then goes and makes it all about political point scoring.  Idiot. 

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there.  We just will not hear about it anymore. Why did we go there? "To make big rocks into little rocks." Thanks Hayseed.

The Coalition won't stay unless they have a huge force to run the logistics and maintain the bases. You can't have a small force in Afghanistan because the Taliban will rip them apart. If people start coming home it's finished.

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN

well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but..




"Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.


its worth a try at least..

at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear..

I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys..

and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. :'(

Datalife wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:49pm: I'm happy to leave 'the politics' right here.  ...then goes and makes it all about political point scoring.  Idiot.

Puhlease!  No need to be an idiot all your life.  It's okay to take a day off now and then!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:

Let's leave the politics on this for another day. Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound.

Perfectly said.

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:07pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:32pm: All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but.. "Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said. its worth a try at least.. at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear.. I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys.. and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. :'(

cods, this blubber would make every digger I know cringe.  These 'boys' as you call them as if they were yours, have been there more than once........most of them have, and they have had a 'welcome home' after every rotation.

We did not go there to make it a better place. We went there because Uncle Sam did.  All we did (that which will last more than a couple of years) was make 'big rocks into little rocks.'  Yeas, we did indeed build a few useful bits of infrastructure, and we did indeed assist maintain the longest dirt runway in the World.............but puhlease, let's not take it much further than that.

It was us playing Coyboys and Indians, except in this case, the Indians beat us off.

We had zero military goal ~ no-one was there to seek a territorial advantage ~ we were there to poke because our big Mate also wanted to do that because two of his big buildings came to grief, and there is no credible link between Afghanistan and those events.

But, I'm glad we are out............to the extent we truly are.

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

I'll take that as rhetorical question, not directed at me.

:)

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there.  We just will not hear about it anymore. Why did we go there? "To make big rocks into little rocks." Thanks Hayseed.

I doubt it, I'd say US private armies such as Blackwater got those contracts.

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:00pm: True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there.  We just will not hear about it anymore. Why did we go there? "To make big rocks into little rocks." Thanks Hayseed. I doubt it, I'd say US private armies such as Blackwater got those contracts.

Maybe, even some others I could mention.  But, we still have SAS there.

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

So the answer is nothing?

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question.  Ta.

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:44pm: Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age. Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals? You have already answered my question.  Ta.

Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:48pm: Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:44pm: Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age. Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals? You have already answered my question.  Ta. Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Poor Sparky, at least she meant well..

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:57pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:48pm: Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:44pm: Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age. Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals? You have already answered my question.  Ta. Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness. Poor Sparky, at least she meant well..

What's the prob Winston with a Y.

Welcome back from a pointless war that we shouldn't have gotten into in the first place.

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:

cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:07pm: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:32pm: All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but.. "Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said. its worth a try at least.. at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear.. I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys.. and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. :'( cods, this blubber would make every digger I know cringe.  These 'boys' as you call them as if they were yours, have been there more than once........most of them have, and they have had a 'welcome home' after every rotation. We did not go there to make it a better place. We went there because Uncle Sam did.  All we did (that which will last more than a couple of years) was make 'big rocks into little rocks.'  Yeas, we did indeed build a few useful bits of infrastructure, and we did indeed assist maintain the longest dirt runway in the World.............but puhlease, let's not take it much further than that. It was us playing Coyboys and Indians, except in this case, the Indians beat us off. We had zero military goal ~ no-one was there to seek a territorial advantage ~ we were there to poke because our big Mate also wanted to do that because two of his big buildings came to grief, and there is no credible link between Afghanistan and those events. But, I'm glad we are out............to the extent we truly are.

what a PIG you are.. please dont bother answering anything of mine again.. you are so rude ... a wannabee "know it all.". who in fact knows bugger all..expurt on nothing..

..glad WE are out.. amazing I bet you dont even know where it is.. yet you think you have been a part of it.. gross..utterly gross..

go crawl up piggies bum its where hypocrites like  you belong.

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:48pm: Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:44pm: Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age. Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals? You have already answered my question.  Ta. Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Never was any of our business.  Accept it as fact.   Afghanistan is where we and Russia before us 'practice' ground warfare in a barren land.

Quote:

what a PIG you are.. please dont bother answering anything of mine again.. you are so rude ... a wannabee "know it all.". who in fact knows bugger all..expurt on nothing.. ..glad WE are out.. amazing I bet you dont even know where it is.. yet you think you have been a part of it.. gross..utterly gross.. go crawl up piggies bum its where hypocrites like  you belong.

Yeas, cods.  I have no idea.  Never been there at all.

:)

I wonder, can Cods tell us why we went their in the first place?

John Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

I wonder, can Cods tell us why we went their in the first place?

cods??

*Waiting*

:)

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 7:07pm: Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:57pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:48pm: Sparky wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:44pm: Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:39pm: So what did we actually do in Afghanistan? They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age. Yeas exactly.    And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals? You have already answered my question.  Ta. Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness. Poor Sparky, at least she meant well.. What's the prob Winston with a Y.

You either believe what you type or are trolling. Sad for you either way.

Well done, boys and girls, and all the best for homecoming.  Take it easy.   Well done, boys and girls, and all the best for homecoming.  Take it easy.   Well done, boys and girls, and all the best for homecoming.  Take it easy.   Well done, boys and girls, and all the best for homecoming.  Take it easy.   Well done, boys and girls, and all the best for homecoming.  Take it easy.

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

ON YA TONY.. HOME FOR CHRISTMAS

YES!!

Come on, progs, hail the PM. Catholic PM ends imperialist war. Dotcha love it??
Doesn't it make you want to EMBRACE catholicisms?
Go on! you know you want to!!

Tony brings world peace. Bow down and give thanks, progs. Tony is YOUR man.



Say a prayer for Cardinal Pell, while you are at it, progs.

Don't know why they went to all that trouble when they could have just used a couple of nuclear bombs and be done with it.

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

They did a great job. It's just a pity more people didn't get behind them. Afghanistan could of been turned into a decent place to live.

Only the US, the UK and their little brother Australia did what they said they would never do  CUT and RUN

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:07pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:32pm: All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but.. "Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said. its worth a try at least.. at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear.. I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys.. and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. :'(

Yeah, yeah cods as if there wasn't enough lying around this war you still persist with that old cr@p about us going there to help the people of Afghanistan.  If that's true why are we leaving.  You say the place is a lot better off. Bullcr@p. On whose assessment?  Its like Abbott giving himself a report card after the first 100 days of government.  Let me guess he gave himself a high distinction.  I don't think anyone really doubts that Afghanistan will fall again to the Taliban within a short time, so whatever gloss you try and put on it were cutting and running.  So why did so many Australian's have to die to get to this point.  Howard and Downer were told over and over that this was going to happen and they insisted that it would not because Australia would never cut and run.   And now that we are cutting and running what do they and you and all their minions say.  "Oh no don't bring up politics, its disrespectful to our returning soldiers.  What!!!! If you had any respect for those who needlessly lost their lives and suffered in Afghanistan you would shout out from the highest heights against those who lied, deceived and manipulated to unnecessarily put them there in the first place.   

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

ON YA TONY.. HOME FOR CHRISTMAS THE LABRATS WONT LIKE THAT.. GILLARD PROMISED 2014.. BUT US LIBS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND HAPPY CHRISTMAS. NATIONAL NEWS Prime Minister Tony Abbott pulls troops out of Oruzgan Province, Afghanistan STAFF WRITER NEWS LIMITED NETWORK DECEMBER 16, 2013 1:54PM Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oru... Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oruzgan Province. Source: Supplied PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says the last Australian soldier has left Oruzgan Province in Afghanistan. Canberra Defence Minister David Johnston said the last troops left Oruzgan yesterday. "They are in the air on the way home,'' he told reporters in Sydney. Mr Abbott thanked the soldiers for their service, saying they had paid a high price with 40 dead and 261 seriously wounded. "Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.

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Gillard to bring troops home early - opposed by Coalition parties

Tue 17 Apr 2012


The Federal Opposition has questioned Prime Minister Julia Gillard's motives as she prepares to announce that most Australian soldiers will be pulled out of Afghanistan before the next election.

In a speech to be delivered to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute this lunchtime, Ms Gillard will lay out plans to pull troops out of Afghanistan a year earlier than originally planned.

Troops could start leaving as early as this year, with most troops home by the end of 2013.


A 2013 pull-out date will be a year in advance of the 2014 deadline previously laid down by NATO-led international forces

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-17/gillard-tipped-to-bring-troops-home-early/3954144








This, supposed, great move by Abbott - is following the schedule laid down by Gillard, almost to the T

( ... it's only a FRACTION behind) i

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 5:43pm: Let's leave the politics on this for another day. Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound. I'm happy to leave 'the politics' right here.  Abbott cannot claim credit for this event, and stuffed if anyone ought allow him to.  If cods reckons he legitimately can, then she should also blame Abbott for the current deficit. Our departure from Afghanistan was decided long ago, and the logistics of that have been in progress prior to the last election. bugger off Phoney.  This has zero to do with you.

F F S   He only announced it RICK SHAW BOY   Some times you are such a dumb  c t  >:( >:(

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

This, supposed, great move by Abbott - is following the schedule laid down by Gillard, almost to the T ( ... it's only a FRACTION behind)

So it looks like the Americans authorised both Gillard and Abbott to let us pull out our troops early.  All you righties might want to think about that next time the neocon propagandists fire you up about the UN trying to interfered with our soverignty. 

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way.  Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do? CUT AND RUN

You wanted them to stay?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:

Let's leave the politics on this for another day. Welcome back and very glad they are arriving safe and sound.

I assume you are responding to the OP:

cods:

Quote:

ON YA TONY.. HOME FOR CHRISTMAS THE LABRATS WONT LIKE THAT.. GILLARD PROMISED 2014.. BUT US LIBS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU

Australia, Great Britain and others are pulling out because the US President is cutting and running. They have wasted thousands of young lives and for what.....the Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan.

Yes well done to all the troops from all the nations who fought the good fight, they deserved better than leaving the job unfinished.

They were put there strategically for a planned 3rd world war, but the false flag pretexts all fell through. The West might have just missed its final opportunity for a military solution to its decline. That is pretty much what is at stake here, we needed to strike to stay militarily relevant.

viewpoint wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

Australia, Great Britain and others are pulling out because the US President is cutting and running. They have wasted thousands of young lives and for what.....the Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan. Yes well done to all the troops from all the nations who fought the good fight, they deserved better than leaving the job unfinished.

Maybe you can tell us, as cods, although asked, declined.  What was that job?

Aussie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 3:00pm: Australia, Great Britain and others are pulling out because the US President is cutting and running. They have wasted thousands of young lives and for what.....the Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan. Yes well done to all the troops from all the nations who fought the good fight, they deserved better than leaving the job unfinished. Maybe you can tell us, as cods, although asked, declined.  What was that job?

Quote:

The Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan

...........use what imagination you have.......as an ex lawyer.....think about how much you billed your clients........that took a lot of imagination didn't it.........screwing them in order to pay for your taxi business................................determining why they went to Afghanistan in the first place shouldn't tax that fertile brain of yours too much..........maybe?

viewpoint wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 3:49pm: viewpoint wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 3:00pm: Australia, Great Britain and others are pulling out because the US President is cutting and running. They have wasted thousands of young lives and for what.....the Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan. Yes well done to all the troops from all the nations who fought the good fight, they deserved better than leaving the job unfinished. Maybe you can tell us, as cods, although asked, declined.  What was that job? Quote: The Taliban will be back were they were before the coalition of the willing went into Afghanistan ...........use what imagination you have.......as an ex lawyer.....think about how much you billed your clients........that took a lot of imagination didn't it.........screwing them in order to pay for your taxi business....

Yo, bro!  So, we went to Afghanistan to help me in my taxi business.  Weeeeeelllll, thank you 'boys,' but I saw no difference here at the coal face.

Have another go........what was that 'job' we went there to do, and did we do it?

:)

Lawyer my arse......you can't even understand or comprehend.........idiot!

viewpoint wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Lawyer my arse......you can't even understand or comprehend.........idiot!

Will you cry if I keep asking you for several hours?

What was that 'job' you referred to?  The one we left 'unfinished.'

:)

Does anyone know?

What was the job we went to do in Afghanistan?

Someone must know, since it was a job 'well done'.

If we find that in six months time the job was not 'well done', will the boys be going back to finish the job?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

Does anyone know? What was the job we went to do in Afghanistan? Someone must know, since it was a job 'well done'. anyone that puts his life on the line to protect me IS DOING A BLOODY GOOD JOB..that goes for firies /ambos/and our defence forces.. if they prevented a terrorist making his way to our country because of our indifference..lets not get involved its none of our business... then I am thankful... no one is asking anyone else to be so.. If we find that in six months time the job was not 'well done', will the boys be going back to finish the job?

we lost a few men whilst training the Afghans to stand up for themselves and to fight evil..is that such a bad thing?? ::)

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The War in Afghanistan (2001–present) refers to the intervention by NATO and allied forces in the Afghan political struggle, following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, to dismantle the al-Qaeda terrorist organization and to remove from power the Taliban government, which at the time controlled 90% of Afghanistan and hosted al-Qaeda leadership. U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over Osama bin Laden and expel the al-Qaeda network which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Afghan Northern Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to extradite him without evidence of his involvement in the 9/11 attacks. The United States refused to negotiate and launched Operation Enduring Freedom on 7 October 2001 with the United Kingdom and later joined by Germany and other western allies, to attack the Taliban and al-Qaeda forces in conjunction with the Northern Alliance.[23][24]
The U.S. and allies drove the Taliban from power and gradually built new military bases near major cities across the country. However, most al-Qaeda and Taliban members escaped to neighboring Pakistan or retreated to rural or remote mountainous regions. In December 2001, the U.N. Security Council established the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), to oversee security in the country and train the Afghan National Security Forces. At the Bonn Conference in December 2001, Hamid Karzai was selected to head the Afghan Interim Administration, which after a 2002 loya jirga in Kabul became the Afghan Transitional Administration. In the popular elections of 2004, Karzai was elected the president of the new permanent Afghan government, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.[25]
In 2003, NATO assumed leadership of ISAF, included troops from 43 countries, with NATO members providing the core of the force.[26] Only a portion of U.S. forces in Afghanistan operate under NATO command; the rest remained under direct American command. Mullah Omar reorganized the Taliban movement and in 2003 launched insurgency against the Afghan government and ISAF forces.[27][28] Though vastly outgunned and outnumbered by NATO forces and the Afghan National Army, the Taliban insurgents, most notably the Haqqani Network and Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin, have waged asymmetric warfare with guerilla raids and ambushes in the countryside, suicide attacks against urban targets, and turncoat killings against coalition forces. The Taliban exploited the weak administration of the Afghan government, among the most corrupt in the world, to reassert influence across rural areas of southern and eastern Afghanistan. NATO countries responded in 2006 by increasing troops for operations to "clear and hold" villages and "nation building" projects to "win hearts and minds".[29][30]
While NATO forces continued to battle the Taliban insurgency, the war expanded into neighboring North-West Pakistan.[31] In 2004, the Pakistani Army began to clash with local tribes hosting al-Qaeda and Taliban militants. The U.S. military launched drone attacks in Pakistan in order to kill leaders of the insurgent groups. This resulted in the start of an insurgency in Waziristan in 2007.

I just thought it was great they are home for Xmas..I see it doesnt make everyone happy..

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I just thought it was great they are home for Xmas..I see it doesnt make everyone happy..

What makes me unhappy is the waste of lives when the Taliban will be back in charge as soon as the last of the Coalition forces leave the country. No I am not unhappy that the majority of troops of all nations will spend Christmas with their families, but not I hasten to add the brave men who made the ultimate sacrifice.

I know exactly why they were there, I imagine Ozzie will still need to catch up despite your detailed link on the reason.

Ah yes, friends. Just to think, it all started with this:

KARZAI THREATENS TO JOIN TALIBAN.

And now, without the Amerikans, he is his own man. Read on -

"Australians is it? What on earth are these?"

"Master, they are Amerikans with big hats. The brim, you know, it is up like this..."

"Like this? Kabesh! I am a president and I have no brim at all. Look!"

"Master, this I know. Your hat, it is more a crown."

"A crown? No. It is a humble Pashtun hat, many wear. Nehru - he dressed in such a hat. I think it is most becoming of a modern, demokratic leader, no? A reformer, a statesman, the grandfather of a nation."

"Ah..."

"These Australians, they have no style. Their hats are so old fashioned."

"Yes, Master. Whereas our army, our people..."

"Our army? Kabesh! The Taliban, the Taliban is the future. All over the worlds, they will take over all."

"Australia too, Master?"

"Australia? But of course! Australia, Amerika, Mother England, all. The Taliban is here to stay. In the West, they are called rag heads, can you believe? Towel head."

"But the Australians..."

"Towel is the future, habibi. Towel and rag. Form fits function, no? A hat is just a hat, but a towel you can use to make dry."

"Wash dish, Master."

"But of course! The Australians and their hat heads will melt like snow in Spring, but the Taliban will remain."

"Like the corpse in Winter."

"Like a corpse, it is so. Like a Kazakh funeral that never ends. Ah, Angel of Darkness, Mother of Death..."

"Master..."

"Charity, Mother, mercy!"

"Master, please to restrain! Sisters are in waiting room."

"Sisters?"

"Sisters of Charity, Master. From Kolkata - the delegation of nuns! They might think, you know..."

"Ah, they think. They think! Bring them to me."

"Master, I will not."

"Not? But I am fine."

"Are you sure?"

"Please to bring. I will entertain the sisters. Kabesh! Go go!"

"Master, I..."

"Bring."

"Yes, Master."

"Australian Amerikans in hats with brims. Sisters of Charity with Gud knows what..."

"Charity, Master..."

"Yes, charity. All will come and all will go, but the Taliban... The Taliban is here to stay. The Taliban is the future of the worlds."

"And charity?"

"Ah, there is no more charity, effende. Not for a thousand years, a million..."

"I will bring the sisters, Master."

"A trillion..."

"Master!"

"What?"

"Nothing. I will get the delegation of Indian nuns."

"Kabesh!"

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Welcome home, boys. All, insh’allah, is well done.

Karzai meets the lovey JuLiar for the picture.

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Australia, Amerika, Mother England, all.

It is a jolly worlds, no?

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The brave Mr Abbott engages in a little friendly fire.

It is a jolly war, no?

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The brave Mr Abbott volunteers for duty.

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Please to pull trigger, sir. Just don't shoot our boys.

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Can’t you people just be happy they are coming home?

Just for once EVERYONE stuff your stupid political position up your arses and just be happy.

Retards.

::)

Now, sir, you are ready.

Photo shoot with Mr Karzai will be at 0800 hours.

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A bigger gun still. Who has the biggest?

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We are all friends here, no?

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Don't you worry about a thing, love. You've got sex appeal. Mark my words, the Taliban will take one look at you and hand themselves in.

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Hope you’re getting some fun mileage over the deaths of soldiers Rambo.

You usually wear your hair up like that?

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I fail to see how Karnal's posts are in way related to the deaths of soldiers.

Live soldiers aren't sacred things that can't be used as vehicles for humour.

Don't leave me with these broads anymore, okay? That last one was a real ballbuster.

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I really want to know why Tony went to Afghanistan wearing his duck hunting outfit.

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:05am:

I fail to see how Karnal's posts are in way related to the deaths of soldiers.

Because they were sent there and they died there.

Rambo would have nothing to be so flippant about had that not happened now, would he?

People should just STFU and be happy they are coming home.

I’ll leave you retards to it…………….

becasue no one told him it was wabbit season.

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

Can’t you people just be happy they are coming home? Just for once EVERYONE stuff your stupid political position up your arses and just be happy. Retards. ::)

You know what you can do.  If we just let it ride yor mob will keep getting us into wars we don't belong. No yor mob needs to be reminded that you lied that you were going to Afghanistan to help the people and that you would never cut and run and what did you do. Left the people helpless to their fate while you CUT AND RUN. The more we remind you the less likely we'll be lied into another war again. 

She tried to kick me in the balls. Look, I don't want to get anyone into trouble or anything, but do you blokes have protection against this sort of thing?

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ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19th, 2013 at 10:51am: Can’t you people just be happy they are coming home? Just for once EVERYONE stuff your stupid political position up your arses and just be happy. Retards. ::) You know what you can do.  If we just let it ride yor mob will keep getting us into wars we don't belong. No yor mob needs to be reminded that you lied that you were going to Afghanistan to help the people and that you would never cut and run and what did you do. Left the people helpless to their fate while you CUT AND RUN. The more we remind you the less likely we'll be lied into another war again.

Retard.

Er - er - it's a bit like taking a shower in a raincoat, but I guess it'll have to do.

How does it look, fellas?

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Much better.

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Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

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Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

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Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

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Yes, friends, Afghanistan is open for business again.

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In the Presidential Palace in the Mind of Kabul, the Sisters of Charity are ushered out through Reception. It was a jolly meeting with Karzai. Back in Kolkata, the sisters will tell all that everything is being done to educate Afghani girls. For Karzai, it is one of those pointless PR jobs heads of state have to do, but these are Karzai's specialty. Alas, if only the Taliban could be charmed so easily.

Read on -

"Ah, if only the Taliban could be charmed so easily." Karzai smiles and waves at Mother Superior. "If only the Amerikans..."

"Amerikans are finished, Master. They are, how to say, in the red."

"We too are in red, but we must carry on. This Australian, this Abbott, apparently he is like a nun also."

"Apparently he is of their religion, Master, but he does not have vows."

"This I know. He asks where he can get a girl in Kabul. Young. Clean. Preferably vaargin."

"You tell?"

"Of course I don't tell. I say he should ask taxi driver like everyone else."

"He wears a cap on his head like he is hunting for ducks."

"It was for the photo. He tried a few hats but none worked. Usually he wears a helmet for a bicycle, can you believe?"

"A bicycle? Oh, Master, it is too much!"

"This, or a rubber cap for bathing. Gud is great, he did not try this hat on for the photo."

"Oh, Master, where do they find such men?"

"In his country, they are called grown-ups. It is strange. In these rich countries, everything is reversed. Here we call them children. Kabesh!"

"He will not be back?"

"Ah, he will come for photo next election, but no. He will not be back."

"You try to talk to him?"

"I try, but he is too busy. After Kabul, he had to go to a sausage factory in Australia. There, he wears a white hairnet."

"So many hats!"

"And such a big head. Can you believe? We try a Pashtun hat for Al Jazeera, but none would fit. I suggest we try a turban, but he would not do. He said it would make his cheekbones look big."

"Master, this man is too much!"

"He is normal! We went through all this with George Bush. These sisters, they come, they go, but at least they wear just one thing. The Western politicians, they come and go, but all they have time to do is dress for photo."

"And maybe a girl in Kabul."

"This I checked with hotel. No girl."

"No girl?"

"This one prefers the company of men. It is his way."

"You mean... ?"

"No, no, he just likes to be with men. This Abbott has much in common with Taliban. Most of his photos were firing guns. In his country they call them grown-ups."

"Oh, Master, thank Allah these grown-ups are in charge."

"You think? Yes, maybe you are right. Today the grown-ups, tomorrow the Taliban. It is a sobering thought, my friend."

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Yes friends, and it must be a very sobering thought to work for Karzai.

Insh'allah, soon we will all be forced to say, "thank Allah the Taliban are back in charge."

....ah this very good hat for Taliban man....is good for Christian ruler.....this one is much small for bikini man.....I send one

Abdul!!!  attention... you get this hat in extra large for my good frien

he come from Australia....yes yes is like the Americana...same...same

Mr rabb...why they call him rabbit....is silly name

....go  go now

http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period1/2013/09/20/Photos/Karzai1--621x414.jpg

Yes, Aunty, it is so. Bikini man. How do such men come to power? It is a riddle Karzai has pondered often.

Ah, Australia is a demokracy, no?

Say no more, my friends. Afghanistan is a demokracy too.

We are like brothers, no?

Welcome home, boys. Well done.

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It will be just like Vietnam when the enemy over ran the country
as soon as the Yanks left.

What a waste of money - you can't help ignorant people.
It's best just to leave them alone.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

It will be just like Vietnam when the enemy over ran the country as soon as the Yanks left. What a waste of money - you can't help ignorant people. It's best just to leave them alone.

Ignorant? Kabesh! It is grown-ups back in charge.

Ammunition belts! Artificial limbs! Orthopedic footwear! Slashed!

Come to Hassan & Sons. Yes, friends, Afghanistan is open for business.

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Vietnam was overrun Bobby because hard men like Karnal ran away from little men in straw hats and pyjamas.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Vietnam was overrun Bobby because hard men like Karnal ran away from little men in straw hats and pyjamas.

The closest karnal has come to viet nam is watching reruns of First Blood, he's full of sh1t.

No-one I have ever met carries on like a child and has been on the front end of conflict, too many war movies and chronic masturbation fuels his imagination, nothing more.

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:27pm: Vietnam was overrun Bobby because hard men like Karnal ran away from little men in straw hats and pyjamas. The closest karnal has come to viet nam is watching reruns of First Blood, he's full of sh1t. No-one I have ever met carries on like a child and has been on the front end of conflict, too many war movies and chronic masturbation fuels his imagination, nothing more.

I think everyone pretty much can tell Karnal is as much a veteran of Vietnam as I am.

And I was born after it ended....

Awesome movie though Bigol.

Best firm Stallone ever starred in.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

Awesome movie though Bigol. Best firm Stallone ever starred in.

Bit wanky for my liking, but you are right it was the best stallone ever did.  :)

Wank is harum, friends. Come to Afghanistan. We have many lovey men, it is so.

And yes, many are a fan of Sylvester Stallone. Rocky, Rambo, Risky Business, all. He is a big star, no?

No wank, but you can buy a nice boy and think of Sylvester Stallone.

Thank Allah the grown-ups are back in the charge.

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DANCING BOYS HALF PRICE*.

Sylvester Stallone, Tom Cruise, Shahrukh Khan. Come today!

You will not be sad, friends. This one looks like Al Pacino.

Bacha Bazi With The Stars. 10346 Karl Marx Avenue, Kabul.

*Limited time only.

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Karzai often goes for Amitabh Bachan.

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You are talking to me? There is no one else here, isn't it.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:34pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:27pm: Vietnam was overrun Bobby because hard men like Karnal ran away from little men in straw hats and pyjamas. The closest karnal has come to viet nam is watching reruns of First Blood, he's full of sh1t. No-one I have ever met carries on like a child and has been on the front end of conflict, too many war movies and chronic masturbation fuels his imagination, nothing more. I think everyone pretty much can tell Karnal is as much a veteran of Vietnam as I am. And I was born after it ended....

smacking rambo wanna be, nothing more.  ;D

You wanna a piece of me?

Special price for you. 100 Afghani.

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BigOl64 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:36pm: BigOl64 wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:34pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20th, 2013 at 12:27pm: Vietnam was overrun Bobby because hard men like Karnal ran away from little men in straw hats and pyjamas. The closest karnal has come to viet nam is watching reruns of First Blood, he's full of sh1t. No-one I have ever met carries on like a child and has been on the front end of conflict, too many war movies and chronic masturbation fuels his imagination, nothing more. I think everyone pretty much can tell Karnal is as much a veteran of Vietnam as I am. And I was born after it ended.... smacking rambo wanna be, nothing more.  ;D

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Midnight, the Presidential palace in Kabul. Karzai looks out over the city skyline, the crescent moon lighting the Mogul palace ramparts. The Angel of Darkness is silent.

"A thief, Mother, is this how I am to be treated? A thief in my own land? Kabesh!"

Karzai takes a toke of his pipe. He splutters and coughs.

When he finishes coughing, his half-lidded eyes pass over the neon lights of Kabul's red light district. SEVEN VEILS. HUBBLY BUBBLY. BACHA BAZI.

The last one is cheeky, as Bacha Bazi is officially banned. Of course there are no girls in any of those clubs. You'd be lucky to get a glass of bathtub gin. Sweet tea, hashish and dancing boys are all you'll find on a night out in Kabul - until the Taliban return to power. Then the owners will be blackmailed, the lights smashed with sticks, and goats will graze on the city streets again.

BACHA BAZI. Karzai thinks back to his youthful days during the Soviet occupation. Back then the boys sold drugs and prostituted themselves on the streets. Now the warlords were back in charge of business, the boys would be lucky to get a small cut. The big attractions might make 25%. All the rest: tea, goat curry and enough heroin to get by - until they inevitably lost their looks and stopped earning.

Then it was back on the Kabul streets and a short life of crime. The warlords, of course, controlled crime too, so an ex-Bacha Bazi boy with a twenty dollar day habit could not last long without their say so.

Karzai knows little of this, but he has his favourite: a 16 year old dancing boy with a face like a young Amitabh Bachan, Karzai's favourite Bollywood star. Allah Uakbar, he is a beauty, Karzai would say to his advisers. He can dance like a kite!

But Farhad, as he is known, is getting older, and Karzai is losing interest in the game. The club owners who made a fortune from Karzai, have tired of Farhad, who's incessant demands were becoming unbearable. Pirated Persian CDs, Kashmiri veils, Indian sweets, even pantihose. The more Karzai ignores his old club on Karl Marx Avenue, the less Farhad is tolerated. For the first time ever, he had his pay docked for not smiling sweetly enough while dancing for a Kazakh warlord.

Tonight, Karzai will stay at home. Kabesh, he has no approval and the guards will not let him leave. Can you believe? Karzai is the president and he needs permission to leave his own palace.

Outside, dogs bark on the street and the neon lights of Karl Marx Avenue burn in the distance. A thief - this is how Karzai is treated, no better than a prisoner. Tonight, if you are in Kabul, and you see a light on in the top floor of the Presidential Palace, the Mind of Afghanistan, you may look for Karzai.

Yes friends, he will be smoking his pipe and cursing to the Angel of Darkness in his own mother tongue.

It is a tongue that has moved leaders around the world, but it cannot get him out of his own golden cage. One day, Gud willing, all will be freed, but for now, sleep well.

It is true, effendes. Awake or asleep, Kabul still has the power to dream.

Yes, friends, last 2 Afghan elections CIA Station Chief GARRY breathed a sigh of relief, Thank heavens Karzai is back in charge.

In charge? A little strong perhaps, but Afghanistan, you see, is a demokracy.

We must keep up appearances, isn’t it.

Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 21^st, 2013 at 9:39am:

Yes, friends, last 2 Afghan elections CIA Station Chief GARRY breathed a sigh of relief, Thank heavens Karzai is back in charge. In charge? A little strong perhaps, but Afghanistan, you see, is a demokracy. We must keep up appearances, isn’t it.

Our man in Havana...oops..Kabul  :D

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

ON YA TONY.. HOME FOR CHRISTMAS THE LABRATS WONT LIKE THAT.. GILLARD PROMISED 2014.. BUT US LIBS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND HAPPY CHRISTMAS. NATIONAL NEWS Prime Minister Tony Abbott pulls troops out of Oruzgan Province, Afghanistan STAFF WRITER NEWS LIMITED NETWORK DECEMBER 16, 2013 1:54PM Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oru... Leading Aircraftman Noel Klaehn lets Australians know he and his mates will be home for Christmas during his final day in Oruzgan Province. Source: Supplied PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says the last Australian soldier has left Oruzgan Province in Afghanistan. Canberra Defence Minister David Johnston said the last troops left Oruzgan yesterday. "They are in the air on the way home,'' he told reporters in Sydney. Mr Abbott thanked the soldiers for their service, saying they had paid a high price with 40 dead and 261 seriously wounded. "Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.

For one innocent sounding, *********************** Removed - mod)hotly seasoned LIAR[/b]


http://static.politifact.com.au.s3.amazonaws.com/politifact%2Fphotos%2Ffirstpantsonfire.gif

( ... a common LibNat trait ?)




Gillard to bring troops home early - opposed by Coalition parties

Tue 17 Apr 2012


The Federal Opposition has questioned Prime Minister Julia Gillard's motives as she prepares to announce that most Australian soldiers will be pulled out of Afghanistan before the next election.

In a speech to be delivered to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute this lunchtime, Ms Gillard will lay out plans to pull troops out of Afghanistan a year earlier than originally planned.

Troops could start leaving as early as this year, with most troops home by the end of 2013.


A 2013 pull-out date will be a year in advance of the 2014 deadline previously laid down by NATO-led international forces

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-17/gillard-tipped-to-bring-troops-home-early/3954144








This, supposed, great move by Abbott - is following the schedule laid down by Gillard, almost to the T

( ... it's only a FRACTION behind) i


On July 26, 1956, the House of Representatives voted 373 to 9 to cite Pete Seeger and seven others (including playwright Arthur Miller) for contempt, as they failed to cooperate with House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) in their attempts to investigate alleged subversives and communists. Pete Seeger testified before the HUAC in 1955.

In one of Pete's darkest moments, when his personal freedom, his career, and his safety were in jeopardy, a flash of inspiration ignited this song.

The song was stirred by a passage from Mikhail Sholokhov's novel "And Quie Flows the Don". Around the world the song travelled and in 1962 at a UNICEF concert in Germany, Marlene Dietrich, Academy Award-nominated German-born American actress, first performed the song in French, as "Qui peut dire ou vont les fleurs?"

Shortly after she sang it in German.
The song's impact in Germany just after WWII was shattering.





It's universal message, "let there be peace in the world" did not get lost in its translation.
To the contrary, the combination of the language, the setting, and the great lyrics has had a profound effect on people all around the world.

May it have the same effect today and bring renewed awareness to all that hear it.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2SIIeqy34

Now now, as Mr Abbott says, Oruzgan today is a significantly different and better place today than it was a decade ago.

Yes, friends, thank heavens the warlords are back in charge.

Santa Claus is coming to town, my friends. It is a jolly time. This year, he may not visit Oruzgan province, as peoples there have been very naughty!

Santa will go to Kabul and Lashkar Gar. Who knows? Maybe he will even visit Karzai.

But for now, my friends, may you have a merry Christmas and many happy days. Karzai will think of us all, wishing us many blessings.

Gud is great, effendes. Kabesh!

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The Afghans can now get back to growing lots of drugs,abusing women,murdering each other and getting hold of that Pakki nuclear bomb....amen.

brumbie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2013 at 9:40am:

The Afghans can now get back to growing lots of drugs,abusing women,murdering each other and getting hold of that Pakki nuclear bomb....amen.

Ah, my friend, Gud is great. This they already do.

The Paki bomb is another matter. Pakis do not like Afghanis and vice-versa. Kabul CIA chief GARRY and his counterpart in Pakistan do not get on either.

It is the way of the worlds, my friend.

It is Christmas, friends. Boys are home, war is over.

The war in our hearts and minds will go on.

Salaam Aleikum, my friends. May Gud bring you peace..If you want it.

Yes, you can have.

For a good time, come to Dancing with the Stars. 10345 Karl Marx Avenue, Kabul. Sylvester Stallone, Al Pacino, Shah Rukh Khan, all. Come come, habibis. Halal chatoor - all boys clean by Afghani standards.

Gud is great!

Come to Kabul, my friends. You will not be sad!

May Gud be with you and your families.

Except the leftards - they can go suck Mr Abbott’s gun.