Australian Politics Forum - Climate change predictions 17 years ago

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17058 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #150 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 1:53pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 8:25am: Not that wrong—ice is disappearing from the Arctic seas and from Greenland while tundra is thawing out and doing so further and further north. Not that RIGHT is what it is.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47230 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #151 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 2:12pm I don't always agree with you Lee. But you are a superb Poster.
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Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago
Reply #152 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 2:56pm

lee wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 1:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

Not that wrong—ice is disappearing from the Arctic seas and from Greenland while tundra is thawing out and doing so further and further north.

Not that RIGHT is what it is.

https://i0.wp.com/www.climate4you.com/images/NSIDC%20GlobalArcticAntarctic%20Sea...

Poor lees, he does try but misses Wink

Now pop up some graphs to end Oct 2023 and pop up the graph of ice volumes.

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Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago
Reply #153 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:46pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 2:56pm:

Now pop up some graphs to end Oct 2023 and pop up the graph of ice volumes.

http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/

But tell us your best guess at Total Mass Balance of Greenland.

But this thing with tundra, perhaps you can explain the tree stumps above the current tree line? Grin

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45496 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #154 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:52pm Those trees lived in the MWP, died in the LIA. Anymore kindergarten questions, lees
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Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago
Reply #155 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Just for JM on the AMOC collapse -

"ne of the more unforgivable climate scares foisted on the public by green fanatics is the suggestion that the Gulf Stream is about to break down, plunging the northern hemisphere into a new ice age. Last July, both the Guardian and the BBC reported that the Gulf Stream could collapse by 2025, bringing catastrophic climate impacts. All of this fearmongering relies on models, and these have also led the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to forecast it is “very likely” that the entire system of North Atlantic currents will weaken in the near future. Needless to say, these models have an impressively poor track record, and this has been revealed in a recent paper published by the Royal Society. “If these models cannot reproduce past variation, why should we be so confident about their ability to predict the future,” ask the scientific authors."

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/11/14/gulf-stream-collapse-scare-debunked-by-royal...

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45496 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #156 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:03pm AMOC could well collapse. Won’t cause an ice age.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17058 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #157 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:04pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:52pm: Those trees lived in the MWP, died in the LIA. So the LIA was real. The treeline WAS higher before the LIA and you believe it should stay LIA. And the MWP was about as warm as now. No climate emergency.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17058 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #158 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:07pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:03pm: AMOC could well collapse. Ah the hope of the hopeful. Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:03pm: Won’t cause an ice age. So the warming Gulf current doesn't count for Europe. Just make them climate refugees.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45496 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #159 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:45pm If it stops, where is the warming current?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17058 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #160 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:45pm: If it stops, where is the warming current? That's why we would have climate refugees. Note the blue bar.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45496 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #161 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 6:18pm Arctic sea ice volume: https://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/SPIOMAS...
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45496 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #162 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 6:34pm Antarctic sea ice volume
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17058 Gender:	Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago Reply #163 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 7:15pm Wow. "The Antarctic ice sheet is the largest block of ice on Earth, containing over 30 million cubic kilometers of water." So one thousand Cu Km is .98GT. So nothing to worry about. And Mawson's huts were covered and filled. They had to dig them out.
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