...........   Data from the United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics found similar results, with roughly 1 in 10 respondents who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibiting symptoms lasting for a period of 12 weeks or longer.

This means that across the world, there may be more than 5 million casesTrusted Source of long COVID.

One 2021 studyTrusted Source found that more than three-quarters of COVID-19 patients in a hospital in Wuhan, China, still had at least one symptom 6 months after their discharge from the hospital.

This is consistent with a 2020 study from Italy that found that 87.4%Trusted Source of COVID-19 patients reported experiencing at least one symptom 2 months after their discharge from the hospital.

A 2020 Swiss study also notes that as many as 1 in 3 people with milder cases COVID-19 were still experiencing symptoms after 6 weeks.

Using a statistical model, a preprint 2020 study found that long COVID is more likely to occur in older adults, people with a higher body mass index (BMI), and females.

It also notes that individuals who experience more than five symptoms during the first week of illness are more likely to develop long COVID.        ..............

Data from the United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics found similar results, with roughly 1 in 10 respondents who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibiting symptoms lasting for a period of 12 weeks or longer.

i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it

i think a lot of those symptoms of "long covid" are psychosomatic sprint.

chronic fatigue syndrome , for example, always seemed like a medical term for "lazy bastard".

"fibromyalgia" seems like a term for sooky wimp.

but the vaccine poses no threat at all.

so you would have to be a coward of the highest order to refuse to have it

...........  So the benefit of getting vaccinated (and not getting COVID) is much higher for older people than younger people.         .............

.........   Our expert regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (the TGA) has approved both the Pfizer vaccine and the AstraZeneca vaccine under standard (rather than emergency) protocols so we know both are safe and effective.
But all vaccines have some side-effects and sometimes they can be serious. As always, it’s a question of balancing the risks in vaccination against the risks of disease.
So far, based on some 200 million people who’ve received the AstraZeneca vaccine worldwide, between one in 100,000 and one in 250,000 have developed rare and serious blood clots on the brain that seem to be associated with the jab.
Given an infection fatality rate of about six in a thousand for people between 50 and 65 catching COVID, having the AstraZeneca jab is well worth the risk; even more so for the very elderly whose COVID death rate is as much as nine per 100.
That’s why Scott Morrison announced late on Thursday that the AZ jab would only be recommended for people over 50 following updated advice from the TGA; it’s about an abundance of caution.
With more and more people getting vaccinated overseas, our experts have benefited from greater data on which to base this analysis so for us, the delays in shipments of AZ out of Europe has worked in our favour.
But again, perspective is needed. As one commentator put it on Friday: “If you look at the data and see that the chances of getting a blood clot with this vaccine is about four in one million, compared to four in 10,000 for the contraceptive pill, that perspective needs to be highlighted.”
As the government’s medical advisers made clear, it’s not that people under 50 shouldn’t get the AZ jab — health care workers who’ve already had one for instance, are advised to have the second — it’s just that it’s no longer the recommended vaccine for people under 50.
That didn’t stop a predictable spray from an Opposition, desperate to find fault, that the government should have ordered more vaccines and different ones.
Of course, if the government hadn’t placed such a big order with the local vaccine producer CSL, that’s in partnership with AstraZeneca, Labor would have been screaming about lack of support for local jobs. The Prime Minister can’t win, can he?
It’s important to understand that vaccines are being made differently in this pandemic and that difference is relevant.
The AZ vaccine is based on another virus that mimics a COVID infection to trigger the body’s immune response without its life-threatening side effects. Pfizer, by contrast, introduces a genetic code to trick the body into producing COVID antibodies.
At present, CSL lacks the capability to produce these novel gene-based vaccines. To do so, on one academic estimate, would take 12 months and an investment of $100 million.
In fact, just as the federal government was relatively swift to close our borders to the disease in the first place, it was also quick to place massive orders with a range of potential vaccine suppliers — unlike the EU, for instance, which is now seizing the vaccines destined for Australia because it was too late to place orders of its own.
Our initial orders covered Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer, plus the Novavax vaccine that’s yet to be approved, as well the University of Queensland vaccine that’s been discontinued.
Due to the AZ vaccine’s blood clot concerns, the government has just ordered a further 20 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine which should now be enough to cover the 17 million Australians under 50.
The problem is that these are unlikely to be available until late in the year — and could be subject to more EU-style vaccine nationalism — so what’s now in peril is the government’s October timetable for full population vaccination and what’s now at risk is our future freedom from more lockdowns and ongoing travel restrictions.
If I had a choice between the Pfizer vaccine and AstraZeneca, I’ll be upfront and say I’d go with Pfizer. But if the choice were between vaccination and ongoing border closures, I’d take vaccination.      ..............

Dear Sprint,
it's hard to know what to do with Covid vaccine information:

What if you tell people to take the vaccine and and it kills them?

What if you tell someone not to take the vaccine and Covid kills them?

It's a dilemma.

I just calculated that if we had the same number of
deaths per capita as the USA then over 44,000 people would
have died from Covid in Australia.




figures from here:
https://coronaboard.com/

The fraction of deaths in the USA = 575,829 dead divided by 331,002,651 total population = 0.0017396.

Multiply 0.0017396 by the population of Australia: 25,499,884 people = 44,361 people who would have died.

That is over 44,000 people dead.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:


yes, it is certainly a difficult time.  It IS a big decision.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2021 at 8:59pm:


The fact that 80% of people are asymptomatic and have from no symptoms to a very mild cold when they get covid-19, makes me question why should EVERYONE get the jab, there's your herd immunity right there.

Why not vaccinate the vulnerable.

Also the current crop of vaccines only protect you for a few months and every year a booster shot will be needed.

And the fact that once you have been vaccinated you may still get covid-19 and pass it on to other people just like a person who has not been vaccinated.

Kinda makes Alan Joyce's policy no jab no flight STUPID...!

The fact that 80% of people are asymptomatic and have from no symptoms to a very mild cold when they get covid-19,

Odds are that very few places that Alan takes you would accept you if not vaccinated.

People who have had asymptomatic covid can still suffer long term problems like Lung and heart damage etc.

Asymptomatic Covid is not as harmless as some people think.

How did you go with your AZ shots ?
Mild flu symptoms ?[

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:





Not ONE cold or flu symptom
It'll be two weeks, tomorrow
Just a bit of dull pain at the injection site. for a couple of days -if someone punched me
So I asked them to "please don't do that"

I'd highly recommend it to anyone who qualifies for it

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:37am:


No you haven't. You've just listened to certain doctors, scientists etc who have toed the party line. That's why you've been able to hear them. Dissenting doctors and scientists have been censored.

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 18^th, 2021 at 12:37am:


No you haven't. You've just listened to certain doctors, scientists etc who have toed the party line. That's why you've been able to hear them. Dissenting doctors and scientists have been censored.

Why you should get a covid vaccine

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 7:58am:


But someone who has been vaccinated can also get covid and pass it on to others, which may kill them.

So your point is.....???

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:29am:


So far the studies I have seen seem to suggest that whether you are vaccinated or not you can still catch it and transmit it to others.

As far as I'm aware the current crop of vaccines do not provide sterilisation immunity. 

https://i.ibb.co/0qn01jT/covsprd.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinate...

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:42am:


The current crop of vaccines will help you fight the virus and possibly avoid death if you are one of the vulnerable ones.

But that's about the extent of the vaccines.

They do not provide sterilisation immunity.

And once you have been vaccinated you can still catch covid-19 and then transmit it to others.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:50am:


Sterilisation immunity means that once you have been vaccinated you can no longer transmit the virus.

https://i.ibb.co/vBtqM4P/SI.jpg

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:03am:


https://i.ibb.co/zFtHnjy/covid-19.jpg



Cool, what about the other 20% who do show symptoms. We vaccinate to reduce our ability to transmit to them.

I'm still waiting for those 2 magic words Ajax

I'm just assuming you're going to say Agenda 21 at some point.

https://i.ibb.co/FX3GVXK/BJHM.jpg

Why you should get a covid vaccine

Ajax wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:10am:


That is amazing.

We are still working on the data.

Quote:


https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851

So ignorin g the 500000 deaths?

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:44am:


I heat up, I can't cool down.

Why you should get a covid vaccine

https://twitter.com/umustrise/status/1389006979566239744

Quote:


So, folks, hurry up and roll up those sleeves... some people are itching to make lots of money by bringing in overseas workers again (while we still have countless unemployed in Australia).

Gives you a nice warm fuzzy feeling, doesn't it?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 4^th, 2021 at 9:24am:


lol... of course not.

Can you service and repair one of these?

I got my first covid vaccine today.
Pfzyer

.........  Analysis of reports received to 25 April 2021 shows the overall number of reports received for COVID-19 vaccines is no higher than the expected background rate for the more common type of blood clots in Australia.
The TGA is continuing to calculate observed reporting rates of thrombosis following vaccination on a regular basis and compare these to the expected background rates.
These reports for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine are not related to the very rare clotting disorder associated with very low platelets (thrombocytopenia) being investigated in relation to the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.        ...........

aquascoot wrote on May 4^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:


Looks like Australia isn't the only place where more and more people are becoming reluctant to be vaccinated.

Free beer offered as US vaccine drive turns to bribes

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/pots-shots-and-pot-for-shots-us-vacci...

Quote:


Quote:


Perhaps they should try the “shot and beer” program here?

Setting something like this up at footy matches would be the perfect place to start.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 4^th, 2021 at 5:05pm:



good on you sprint.

got mine,

woke up with a bit of a chest thumper and the next day was achey round the lower back but all gone by midday

when we all get done, the nonsense ends.
so lets all get done

Jesus!  I was just joking   

Bunnings vaxhouse? Hardware giant could be drafted to aid vax rollout

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:52pm:



rubbish,  its the leftards who dont want to have it.

unless gweggy, rhino and carl are members of the right 

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:19pm:


The chodes just want a quick fix, dear. They live lives of pure garbage.

The Superior Man relishes adversity. He welcomes the opportunity to achieve genetic mastery.

Fat Steve and Janeen can't wait for their free government shot. Throw in Jobkeeper, a couple of Maccas vouchers and a subscription to Netflix and they're yours.

The "noble righty" knows there's no such thing as a free lunch. He'll pay for his gym membership and blend his own kale shakes, thanks very much.

Don't try virtue-signalling Aquascoot, Sprint, he's not having a bar of this.