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CCP: life is best in China
Apr 6th, 2022 at 5:13pm
 
Question for the stooges: is this true, and is this what they have been hinting at but not quite bringing themselves to say?

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/how-much-support-does-the-chinese-communist-party-really-have/

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a barrage of propaganda from China’s press constantly reinforces the idea that life in China is now better than it is in the rest of the world


Of course, this is not new. The CCP were pushing the same line back when they were starving millions of Chinese to death with their lies and incompetence.

Why are the Chinese people so tolerant of their leaders lies and incompetence?
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Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2022 at 5:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 5:13pm:
Why are the Chinese people so tolerant of their leaders lies and incompetence?

The historians have been telling us for a long time - The Chinese have been tolerant of mad emperors for centuries.

Something David Starkey observed about English euro-scepticism.

It started with Henry VIII and his break with Rome, essentially ending all alliances with Catholic Europe and sending England out on a path of its own.

Starkey recounts: On the eve of the Brexit vote, he was sure the British would vote to stay in the EU and thought: finally Henry was dead. When he woke up and read the result, he commented to himself, 'Looks like the old bastard is still alive!'.

The Chinese have a very high tolerance of insanity at the top. That didn't end with Mao's victory in China. He simply became the next mad emperor. Deng (excluding the Tiananmen Square massacre) saw this and attempted to prevent it by sealing a 2-term maximum role for the head of state.

Xi has reversed that and is now attempting to politically steer China back to its lifetime reign of mad emperors with himself as the latest mad emperor for life.

Mao is alive and is inhabiting the mind of Xi, having been unable to fully inhabit Deng or any of the others.
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Reply #2 - Apr 26th, 2022 at 12:31pm
 

Many Shanghai civilians committed suicide in desperation, while Xi said China should get a gold medal for their anti-epidemic job


https://mobile.twitter.com/DonnaWongHK/status/1512472328478752773

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Reply #3 - Apr 26th, 2022 at 5:00pm
 
Life is best in China

The Party holds the people
Father, mother, brother, sister
Grandpa, grandma too
The people grow our rice, grain by grain
Make much energy, grow the country
The Party give us meat, tendon, muscle, fat and bone
Make our comrades strong to fight
Party thinking, remove all contradictions!
Rice and meat we eat together
Old and young, united in prosperity
Together we fight imperialism
Make glorious our great nation
The blood flows through our veins
Life is best in China!
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Reply #4 - Apr 26th, 2022 at 8:52pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Life is best in China

The Party holds the people
Father, mother, brother, sister
Grandpa, grandma too
The people grow our rice, grain by grain
Make much energy, grow the country
The Party give us meat, tendon, muscle, fat and bone
Make our comrades strong to fight
Party thinking, remove all contradictions!
Rice and meat we eat together
Old and young, united in prosperity
Together we fight imperialism
Make glorious our great nation
The blood flows through our veins
Life is best in China!


Did you just make that up?
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Reply #5 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 12:48am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2022 at 8:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Life is best in China

The Party holds the people
Father, mother, brother, sister
Grandpa, grandma too
The people grow our rice, grain by grain
Make much energy, grow the country
The Party give us meat, tendon, muscle, fat and bone
Make our comrades strong to fight
Party thinking, remove all contradictions!
Rice and meat we eat together
Old and young, united in prosperity
Together we fight imperialism
Make glorious our great nation
The blood flows through our veins
Life is best in China!


Did you just make that up?


Only the translation. Do you want the original?

党管人民
父亲、母亲、兄弟、姐妹
爷爷奶奶也是
人民种植我们的稻谷,一粒粒粒
多做能源,发展国家
党给我们肉、筋、肌肉、脂肪和骨头
让我们的战友坚强地战斗
党的思想,消除一切矛盾!
我们一起吃的米饭和肉
老少同荣
我们一起反对帝国主义
让我们伟大的民族光荣
血液流经我们的血管
中国最好的生活!
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Reply #6 - May 2nd, 2022 at 10:30am
 
Amateur hour

After spending much of the last decade on and off in Shanghai, Mason has a pretty high threshold for chaotic Chinese bureaucracy. “Covid jail” was something else.

The incompetence was staggering.

“Nobody really knew what they were doing,” he says.

Everyone who gets Covid in Shanghai – even those with mild symptoms like Mason and his girlfriend – has to go to an offsite quarantine centre.

Shanghai’s officials are still finding almost 10,000 new cases a day, so the centres keep filling.

Most quarantine centres are much worse than where Mason and his girlfriend were summoned at almost 2am.

About 600 people were packed in the giant shed. On arrival, about 24 of the portaloos were usable. Within days, only eight were, and even those were often nearly overflowing.

There were no showers, ­although there was a hose. They saw a doctor only once during the whole nine-day stay.

People in hazmat suits – called Big Whites in China – would roam around the centre and concrete outdoor area, spraying bleach into the air.

The day began with orders shrieked over loudspeaker, starting as early as 5.30am.

“Don’t come and ask us for breakfast! … Don’t move the beds! … Don’t stand on the toilets!”

None of the staff could speak English, so Mason – fluent in Mandarin – would translate to the other foreigners.

One was an unlucky German who had been sent to the quarantine centre on the final day of a 10-week short-term contract in Shanghai.

Just after the German – who was triple vaccinated with Pfizer – joined a crowded bus to take him to the quarantine centre, he ­received a call from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention. There had been a mistake. His test had actually been negative.

It was too late. Now that he was surrounded by people infected with Covid, he had to go to the quarantine centre to serve his ­sentence.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/get-me-out-of-here-chinas-expat-exodus/ne...


China is one massive, bureaucratic amateur hour of staggering incompetence. Sad, frightening and ridiculous, all at once.





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Reply #7 - May 2nd, 2022 at 11:09am
 
Almost identical reports are coming out of Shanghai daily.

The CCP is trying to put on a display of competence by the likes of:
(a) spraying disinfectant everywhere (even though it is useless in preventing viral spread);

(b) the filming of forming chain gangs of big whites passing food into warehouses - the joke being that if the truck backed up to the door of the warehouse they could unload it directly, so the whole display is a farce;

(c) big whites moving around on segways to give the impression they get around the city fast - as if vehicles on empty streets aren't obviously more efficient;

(d) a robotic dog 'patrolling' the streets to give the impression that robotics are assisting in security.

The Chinese people clearly have been conditioned to accept farcical displays of incompetence from the CCP. To non-Chinese in China? It would be hilarious if the situation wasn't so catastrophic for them.

How long can the Chinese people endure the CCP's humiliation of them as fools?

How many have to die needlessly from starvation and lack of medical care?
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Reply #8 - May 5th, 2022 at 6:45pm
 
Our resident CCP stooges tried to explain why there was "no need" for the Chinese people to be informed about the great Chinese famine. But this is as clear a reason as any why it is necessary. The CCP was never forced to learn a lesson. It got away with staggering incompetence that killed millions. And the lesson they learned is that it is more important to get away with such staggering incompetence than to avoid it in the first place.

The Chinese people will suffer for as long as they allow the CCP to get away with it's lies and incompetence. Thanks to covid, the whole world is now suffering the consequences.
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Reply #9 - May 5th, 2022 at 6:55pm
 
The PA Stooge in Chief tries to pretend he didn’t cheat to win the recent election there.

Unfortunately he did.

Bit sad. Oh well, forget that dump. It won’t be around for much longer I reckon.
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Reply #10 - May 6th, 2022 at 8:13am
 
With China’s growth rate falling after Xi came to power in 2012 from its 1980-2012 annual average of 8.9 per cent to 5.8 per cent, Chinese per capita incomes are extremely unlikely to reach one-third of those in the US before the tail end of the 2020s, much less rival living standards in China’s Asian counterparts.

But even poorer than the quantum of China’s growth has been its quality. The distribution of the gains from economic growth provides a telling case in point. In Japan, Taiwan and South Korea, income inequality remained very low and reasonably stable as incomes surged, with the growth dividend being broadly spread throughout the population.

However, under communist China’s “dictatorship of the proletariat”, income inequality has soared, taking the country’s Gini coefficient (a widely used measure of inequality) from being among the world’s lowest when the reform process began to now being among the world’s highest.

And accompanying soaring inequality has been rampant corruption: according to Transparency International’s highly regarded corruption score, corruption is about as widespread in China as it is in South Africa, making it a society in which graft, patronage and cronyism pervade everyday life, quite unlike the relative probity of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

Nor has Xi’s much publicised anti-corruption campaign closed that gap: Transparency International estimates that both South Korea and Taiwan, which were much less corrupt to begin with, have achieved greater improvements than China in their corruption scores since 2013, without any of the arbitrary arrests and executions that are Xi’s hallmark.

In short, the realities of China’s te regime are scarcely worth flaunting.

In its first three decades, it murdered at least 35 million people, condemning millions more to unending hardship: it is easy to show that had the regime, instead of the carnage of the Cultural Revolution, initiated its market-oriented reforms in 1965, 500 million Chinese would not have spent the bulk of their lives struggling desperately to survive.

And in the four decades after that, China’s growth fell short while the CCP forged a society more deeply marred by injustice and corruption than would ever have been acceptable in the country’s capitalist – and now robustly democratic – Asian peers.

It is those facts that Australia needs to explain, clearly and firmly, in the region and around the world. Xi and his henchmen are perfectly capable of doing their own propaganda; our role should be to speak the truths that set – and keep – nations free.

Henry Ergas
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/inequality-soars-in-xi-jinpings-proletariat-paradise/news-story/960230c42fa226533f3f31448b1eb3ab
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Reply #11 - May 6th, 2022 at 8:25am
 
freediver wrote on May 5th, 2022 at 6:45pm:
The CCP was never forced to learn a lesson. It got away with staggering incompetence that killed millions. And the lesson they learned is that it is more important to get away with such staggering incompetence than to avoid it in the first place.

Unfortunately the Chinese traditions of guanxi (influence) and mianzi (saving face) have been arrogated to and perverted by the CCP.

As the CCP forces the Chinese people to conflate the party with the nation (using propaganda in songs with lyrics like: 'without the party there would be no China'), the people have been indoctrinated to protect the influence and face of the party over the dignity of the people; and has forbidden the right for them to know the truth about the state of their nation, and that of the party, as separate entities.
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2022 at 4:14pm
 
Visit China before China visits you? Too late, m'afraid.

Senate candidate arrested by NSW Police

A human rights activist has been arrested at a pro-democracy and anti-Chinese government protest in the northwest Sydney suburb of Eastwood.

Now released, Drew Pavlou criticised what he described as the “underhanded” behaviour of NSW police and said he would defend the charges in the name of free speech, vowing to go as far as the High Court.

“We’re going to Castle it,” he said, referring to the Australian film in which a homeowner takes a matter to the High Court after a developer tries to seize their land.

Mr Pavlou said officers on Saturday said they decided to charge him for a similar protest the previous week. “It was almost like they were trying to intimidate me,” he said.

Mr Pavlou is a prominent critic of the Chinese Communist Party and was controversially suspended by the University of Queensland in 2020 over his activism. He is vying for a Queensland Senate seat in the federal election.

Mr Pavlou said he had organised a rally of about 30, mostly anti-Chinese government activists focused on Hong Kong, Uighur Muslims, and Tibet at the Eastwood community marketplace on Saturday.

They held signs with messages such as “Free Hong Kong”, “Free Tibet”, and “Down with the CCP (Chinese Communist Party)”.

He said an altercation took place about 6pm, when a group of pro-Chinese government bystanders started to yell at him and his fellow protesters.

“The police pulled me aside and they said your actions are now causing fear and alarm to the public. This can escalate to violence, and there’s a threat, and so we’re directing you to move on.

“I just said, I believe in free speech and as a matter of free speech, I won’t be moving on. You’ll have to arrest me.”

Mr Pavlou says he was released on bail about midnight on the condition he would not go within one kilometre of Eastwood and Epping.

A NSW police spokesman confirmed the arrest took place in the Eastwood community marketplace about 6.30pm on Saturday evening.

“The gathering was obstructing pedestrian traffic and interfering with stall owners’ ability to conduct their business,” said the spokesman. “Police were concerned that the unauthorised assembly was causing fear and alarm among the community due to the escalating anti-social behaviour of those present.

“Police spoke with a 22-year-old man and issued him a move along direction. When the man failed to comply with that move along direction, he was arrested.”

No one else was arrested.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/antichina-activist-to-castle-it-after-ar...

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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2022 at 1:43pm
 
What is it about the NSW police and the CCP?

The full story of what happened with Drew Pavlou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2DqaICG4gU&t=3853s
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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2022 at 1:31pm
 
Execution by organ procurement: Breaching the dead donor rule in China



We find evidence in 71 of these reports, spread nationwide, that brain death could not have properly been declared. In these cases, the removal of the heart during organ procurement must have been the proximate cause of the donor's death. Because these organ donors could only have been prisoners, our findings strongly suggest that physicians in the People's Republic of China have participated in executions by organ removal.
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