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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	The Fifth Amendment Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:32pm “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Donald Trump said in 2016. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Nek minnit! Former President Donald Trump, during his deposition in New York on Wednesday, ended up pleading the Fifth more than 440 times.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12498 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #1 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:35pm He wasn't going to waste his time as president playing golf, either, And yet...
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #2 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:38pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:35pm: He wasn't going to waste his time as president playing golf, either, And yet... It's almost as if he lies every time he opens his mouth. "... more than 440 times"
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12498 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #3 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:38pm Bullshitters are more harmful to society than liars and lying. This is because liars actively consider the truth when they conceal it whilst bullshitters completely disregard the truth. "Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are." Harry G. Frankfurt - On Bullshit.
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Reply #4 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:35pm:

He wasn't going to waste his time as president playing golf, either,

And yet...

By the end of May, Trump had spent some 266 days of his first term at one of his golf clubs, outpacing former President Barack Obama, who had golfed 98 times by the same point in time during his time in office.

266 days.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #5 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:42pm American Citizen: "In our nearly 250 year history, U.S. presidents have pleaded the 5th a total of 440 times. And all of them were Donald Trump yesterday."
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Reply #6 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:42pm:

American Citizen:

"In our nearly 250 year history, U.S. presidents have pleaded the 5th a total of 440 times. And all of them were Donald Trump yesterday."

Now now, Greggery, that's unfair. Only mob bosses take the 5th. If you're innocent, why are you taking the 5th amendment?

He'll spend his time as president in the Oval Office, working every day for the American people, not playing golf like Barrack Hussein Obama, can you believe that crap?

He can't stand loser one term presidents. He'll win so much. He'd never live it down if he lost to a guy like Sleepy Joe Biden, imagine that.

He'll pay down the deficit in his first term as president. No more government debt, think on it.

He'll build a big, beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and we'll get Mexico to pay, believe me.

He's the most honest politician we've seen since maybe George Washington. And that's debatable. Maybe the most honest.

Lock her up? Yeah. Lock em all up.

Mr Trump's promises always come true in the end, no?

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Reply #7 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:43pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:42pm:

American Citizen:

"In our nearly 250 year history, U.S. presidents have pleaded the 5th a total of 440 times. And all of them were Donald Trump yesterday."

Now now, Greggery, that's unfair. Only mob bosses take the 5th. If you're innocent, why are you taking the 5th amendment?

And when they appear in court, they turn up in wheelchairs breathing from oxygen tanks.

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Reply #8 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 8:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 1:42pm:

American Citizen:

"In our nearly 250 year history, U.S. presidents have pleaded the 5th a total of 440 times. And all of them were Donald Trump yesterday."

Now now, Greggery, that's unfair. Only mob bosses take the 5th. If you're innocent, why are you taking the 5th amendment?

And when they appear in court, they turn up in wheelchairs breathing from oxygen tanks.

He's had a rough trot, Meister. Sheesh, give the guy a break already.

So unfair.

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Reply #9 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 9:50pm

Well of course, if an individual is guilty of criminality, he/she should NOT, NOT, NOT, be compelled to provide 'evidence', which could then be construed by his enemies, to convict him/her of some crime.

Demanding that a 'suspect' must cooperate with a prosecuting authority, simply looks like 'a fishing expedition'.

It smacks of authoritarianism, in governance [by a state - think present day CCP China, think Russia under Putin, think North Korea, think Saudi Arabia, think the ISLAMIC republic of Iran.].

IMAGE.....

https://quozio.com/image/v1/q/50853188/1004/lg/70b5952a1091.1/show-me-the-man-an
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"Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime,"

- secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria, to Joseph Stalin.

If a prosecuting authority has any [real] evidence of any criminality, they should [and could] simply prosecute [in a court law] the particular 'suspect'.

Why not ?

Why would any honest prosecuting authority need a dungeon and 'thumbscrews',
or, to issue threats of imprisonment 'if you do not cooperate with this inquiry'. ???

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #10 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 10:58pm

NOT NOT NOT, no?

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Donald Trump’s chief financial officer is expected to plead guilty to tax violations in a deal that would require him to testify about illicit business practices at the former president's company, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Allen Weisselberg is charged with taking more than $2.4 million in off-the-books compensation from the Trump Organisation over several years, including untaxed perks like rent, car payments and school tuition.

The plea deal would require Weisselberg speak in court about the company's role in the alleged compensation arrangement and possibly serve as a witness when the Trump Organisation goes on trial in October on related charges, the people said.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/e8101f40-b6b9-4f70-92ef-0d9c91e59e26

The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #11 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 11:01pm An alleged child rapist once said: “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #12 - Aug 18^th, 2022 at 11:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2022 at 11:01pm: An alleged child rapist once said: “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment.” “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” An alleged fraudster, Greggery. That 13 year old had it coming. You?,
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Fifth Amendment Reply #13 - Aug 19^th, 2022 at 6:53am "The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Former President Donald Trump, during his deposition in New York on Wednesday, ended up pleading the Fifth more than 440 times.
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Reply #14 - Aug 19^th, 2022 at 10:39am

More hilarium, Trump takes some time out of his busy golfing schedule to slap down the witch hunters and there is nothing they can do about it but go home and kick their dogs, Nancy is furious.

In other news Liz Cheney was annihilated by Trump and co, an obvious voter backlash for the jan6 saga and the raid on Don's home. The mid-terms and 2024 are looking good for Trump.

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