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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1050 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 11:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:

That's what they were telling us at the time.

Who was telling you that?

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Scare mongering to scare people to take their monkey snot injections

I've had 6 Covid vaccinations since June 2021 (2 AstraZeneca, 2 Pfizer and 2 Moderna) and I'm pretty sure none of them contained "monkey snot".

And, I wasn't "scared" into taking them with any "scare mongering".

And I feel perfectly fine. No ill effects whatsoever from any of them.

I am also certain the vaccinations were the main reason why my elderly aunt and I didn't have any major problems dealing with Covid when we caught it for the first time a year ago (she has also had the same 6 vaccinations as I have).

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just like geoff did. He took one too many the poor chap Sad

What is this obsession you seem to have with Geoff lately? And what makes you think he "took one too many"?

Oh, before I go... here's the answer for the bonus points in my last post. Cool

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1051 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am

I'll continue this here (from this thread).

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 5:24am:

Carl D wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Ahhh... Queensland.

That magical land of bananas, tourists, theme parks and a CHO who believes it is "necessary" for everyone to be infected (repeatedly) with a BSL-3 virus (SARS-CoV-2) to attain that mythical herd or hybrid immunity.

A land that never had/has any hospital or healthcare workers off sick with the abovementioned virus or any other viruses.

Amazing.

Unlike WA where I was told on the two occasions when I took my aunt to Royal Perth Hospital since July that they had quite a few staff off sick with Covid or the flu most of the time these days.

And nothing has changed since then as Greg mentioned yesterday.

And I suspect it's the same everywhere else in Australia.

But not in the magical land of Queensland, of course.

Where do I sign up to move over there?

hi there dumb dumb .

one of the rorts being run was that staff automaticly got 7 days paid leave if they could test positive .

of course, most were assymptomatic as we know this is a very weak virus

much less then influenza A my missus tells me

as YOU pointed out some old guy in aged care has had covid 5 times

how weak is this virus Grin

anyway, management got sick of staff posting on facebook at the beach or at dreamworld when they were supposedly "sick" with covid , so they cut if back to only 2 claims a year.

of course all the slackers just keep their one positive RAT and then message a pic to the nurse unit manager when they want a week off at taxpayer expense

and because AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU 46 % of nurses are thinking of quiting and they are already worked to death by old fat immobile entitled dickheads pissing the bed thru laziness, when staff take a week off the others just get smashed even harder

so yes covid has made nursing much worse and a lot of good nurses are leaving due to the fat lazy entitled buzzer ringing patients.

it has nothing to do with covid you clown

now you and gweg get your elderly relatives up to cas so the burnt out staff can care for them whilst you and gweg lecture us on trump for the 140,000th time

and then you can tell us how virtuous you both are Roll Eyes

My original reply there still stands, by the way.

Anyway... you're trying to tell us (again) that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is a "very weak virus".

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

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I think that the burden of proof should be on those who claim that "Covid is like other common respiratory viruses".

I haven't seem any science at all to support that assumption, but I have seen masses of scientific publications that say the opposite.

So, where is the proof?

I'm not expecting an answer anytime soon, of course.

Actually, I'm not expecting an answer ever.

What I am expecting, however, is for you to ignore the question and run away like you've done after every single time I've asked you this before (and then you usually come back days or weeks later and repeat the same BS).

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1052 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 10:26am

This gentleman (tern) is a pastor in the UK and it sounds like he's having a conversation with someone like aquascoot.

https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1830520830465397233

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I don't often push in conversations, but yesterday I pushed.

Him: "Why don't we see T so much any more?"

Me: "He has Long Covid."

Him: "No, he doesn't, he has a post-viral condition after that infection he had last year."

Me: "You mean after that Covid infection?"

Here's the rest of it:

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Him: "It didn't sound like Covid."

Me: "Do you know what symptoms he had when he was ill."

Him: "It was a stomach bug, wasn't it?"

Me: "A stomach bug and chest infection. During a wave of a covid variant that frequently caused gastric issues."

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Me: <quickly looks up news story about Covid symptoms last autumn>

Him: "Oh. <pause> He doesn't think it's long covid."

Me: "No. Do you think that his opinion is what determines what it is?

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Him: "No."

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There was so much going on in that conversation.

I pushed because it started with a passive aggressive accusation that someone in our community had stopped being involved because of some flaw in my leadership or character. "Why don't we see T so much any more"

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So, yeah, I'm defensive, but I'm also pissed off.

It drives me nuts that people who *are aware* of the harm that 'an infection' can do are trying to pretend that Covid can't do that damage.

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Why try to pretend it was something else?

Can't we try to reduce the risk of all harmful infections?

That's what we used to do.

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We're in this bizarre contorted world mindset where people twist their view of the world to pretend that everything is back to 2019 normal, when it isn't. It just isn't.

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They'll tie themselves up in deluded knots to deny reality.

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And the problem with that is that the more knots you tie, the more twisted your mind becomes, and the more you become vulnerable to other knot tiers.

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You get caught up in not just your own set of knots, but in the knots of professional and amateur knot tiers both good intentioned and bad intentioned.

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And when your mind and life are tangled, you're controllable, manipulable, steerable.

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The more lies you believe, the more you want to believe.

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And then it all breaks

The first reply says it all:

https://x.com/LadyChuan/status/1830594873973784838

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They literally can’t say the word.

It’s like a computer glitch where certain programs are no longer recognized because they have been erased from the hard drive’s memory.

Quite bizarre. Not just in the UK but also here in Australia and most of the world nowadays.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1053 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 12:44pm

By the way... your "very weak virus" has caused over 1,000 deaths a week in the US for the past 3 weeks.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1830469716051456024

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🇺🇸US weekly COVID update: 177,573 new cases and sadly 1,262 new deaths.

"This is the third week in a row with more than 1,000 new COVID deaths in the U.S."

I thought the pandemic was supposed to be over?

Truly horrifying.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1054 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:38pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

I'll continue this here (from this thread).

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 5:24am:

Carl D wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Ahhh... Queensland.

That magical land of bananas, tourists, theme parks and a CHO who believes it is "necessary" for everyone to be infected (repeatedly) with a BSL-3 virus (SARS-CoV-2) to attain that mythical herd or hybrid immunity.

A land that never had/has any hospital or healthcare workers off sick with the abovementioned virus or any other viruses.

Amazing.

Unlike WA where I was told on the two occasions when I took my aunt to Royal Perth Hospital since July that they had quite a few staff off sick with Covid or the flu most of the time these days.

And nothing has changed since then as Greg mentioned yesterday.

And I suspect it's the same everywhere else in Australia.

But not in the magical land of Queensland, of course.

Where do I sign up to move over there?

hi there dumb dumb .

one of the rorts being run was that staff automaticly got 7 days paid leave if they could test positive .

of course, most were assymptomatic as we know this is a very weak virus

much less then influenza A my missus tells me

as YOU pointed out some old guy in aged care has had covid 5 times

how weak is this virus Grin

anyway, management got sick of staff posting on facebook at the beach or at dreamworld when they were supposedly "sick" with covid , so they cut if back to only 2 claims a year.

of course all the slackers just keep their one positive RAT and then message a pic to the nurse unit manager when they want a week off at taxpayer expense

and because AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU 46 % of nurses are thinking of quiting and they are already worked to death by old fat immobile entitled dickheads pissing the bed thru laziness, when staff take a week off the others just get smashed even harder

so yes covid has made nursing much worse and a lot of good nurses are leaving due to the fat lazy entitled buzzer ringing patients.

it has nothing to do with covid you clown

now you and gweg get your elderly relatives up to cas so the burnt out staff can care for them whilst you and gweg lecture us on trump for the 140,000th time

and then you can tell us how virtuous you both are Roll Eyes

My original reply there still stands, by the way.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

Anyway... you're trying to tell us (again) that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is a "very weak virus".

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

I think that the burden of proof should be on those who claim that "Covid is like other common respiratory viruses".

I haven't seem any science at all to support that assumption, but I have seen masses of scientific publications that say the opposite.

So, where is the proof?

I'm not expecting an answer anytime soon, of course.

Actually, I'm not expecting an answer ever.

What I am expecting, however, is for you to ignore the question and run away like you've done after every single time I've asked you this before (and then you usually come back days or weeks later and repeat the same BS).

hi there carl

stop obsessing over covid and go watch your aunt to make sure she doesnt fall and break her wrist again

you would make a lousy nurse

always focusing on the irrelevant whilst there are real dangers

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1055 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:40pm

as for the piddley numbers of people dying WITH covid

consider this

Each year, there are about 3 million emergency department visits due to older people falls.2
Each year, there are about 1 million fall-related hospitalizations among older adults.2
In 2019, 83% percent of hip fracture deaths and 88% of emergency department visits and hospitalizations for hip fractures were caused by falls.3
Each year, nearly 319,000 older people are hospitalized for hip fractures.3
Falls are the most common cause of traumatic brain injuries (TBI).

i suppose thats just a yawn to you Roll Eyes

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1056 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:56pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

I think that the burden of proof should be on those who claim that "Covid is like other common respiratory viruses".

I haven't seem any science at all to support that assumption, but I have seen masses of scientific publications that say the opposite.

So, where is the proof?

I'm not expecting an answer anytime soon, of course.

Actually, I'm not expecting an answer ever.

What I am expecting, however, is for you to ignore the question and run away like you've done after every single time I've asked you this before (and then you usually come back days or weeks later and repeat the same BS).

What I should have said was: "... ignore the question and run away or try to distract us with irrelevant (in response to the question) word salads".

Still waiting for the proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "weak virus".

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Reply #1057 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:57pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

I think that the burden of proof should be on those who claim that "Covid is like other common respiratory viruses".

I haven't seem any science at all to support that assumption, but I have seen masses of scientific publications that say the opposite.

So, where is the proof?

I'm not expecting an answer anytime soon, of course.

Actually, I'm not expecting an answer ever.

What I am expecting, however, is for you to ignore the question and run away like you've done after every single time I've asked you this before (and then you usually come back days or weeks later and repeat the same BS).

What I should have said was: "... ignore the question and run away or try to distract us with irrelevant (in response to the question) word salads".

Still waiting for the proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "weak virus".

how about YOUR claim that an aged care patient had now had it 6 times Cheesy

how piss weak is that Cheesy

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1059 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 2:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:57pm:

how about YOUR claim that an aged care patient had now had it 6 times Cheesy

how piss weak is that Cheesy

I didn't make the claim, it was posted by a doctor on X earlier this year and I posted it here. And, no... I am not going to search for it again.

Actually, from memory it was 7 times... and the person concerned was just about "on death's door" according to the doctor. He/she may have died since then, I don't know.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:59pm:

why is carl anti-science??

On 5 May 2023, the WHO Director-General announced that WHO no longer considered COVID-19 to be a PHEIC

Is this the same WHO Director-General (Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus) who said Covid was airborne at a press conference in February 2020 but quickly changed that to "droplet based" after Dr. Mike Ryan (sitting next to him) whispered in his ear and passed him a note?

A "mistake" that has cost millions of lives since then.

As well as the massive amounts of time and money wasted worldwide on things like "keep a 1.5 meter distance between people" signs and floor stickers, perspex screens for supermarket checkouts, hand sanitiser everywhere, etc., etc.

Yep, sure sounds like the sort of organization and people we should trust with our health and lives.

Still waiting for that proof, by the way.

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Reply #1060 - Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 3:24pm

Oh, and please... PLEASE don't tell me the WHO were so stupid and incompetent they didn't know that as soon as they announced the end of the PHEIC for Covid last year, governments and the media worldwide (especially Western governments like ours) would 'pounce' on this and proudly announce "The Pandemic Is Over".

Because that's exactly what happened. And most people believed it, of course.

Much celebration followed but most of the celebrating was done by the virus which now has virtuallly unlimited access to billions of human hosts with the opportunity to create endless mutations for itself and continue with more and more death and sickness.

Don't forget that proof. Thanks.

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Reply #1061 - Sep 4^th, 2024 at 7:05pm

While aquascoot is still looking for proof that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus", here's some more proof that it isn't.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1831207685964140843

And straight from the "horse's mouth" so to speak (Australian Bureau of Statistics).

As of July 31st, 2024.

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ABS data: Deaths due to acute respiratory infections by state and territory of registration by 31 July 2024.

🔹COVID: 2,503
🔹Influenza: 310
🔹RSV: 78

Deaths due to COVID in 2024:

NSW: 832
VIC: 653
QLD: 414
WA: 260
SA: 212
TAS: 81
ACT: 42
NT: 9

Source: https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/deaths-due-covid-19-influenza-and-rsv-australia-...

No wonder we haven't seen any Covid death numbers from New South Wales for a long time now... they've had the most Covid deaths so far this year (as I've suspected for a while). Followed by Victoria and Queensland.

"Mild", my @ss.

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Reply #1062 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 10:02am

And... an eerie silence descends upon the thread after real proof is presented from the ABS that this "mild respiratory virus" or "weak virus" is still over 8 times
more deadly than the flu here in Australia.

What will aquascoot's next move be?

* Sarcasm?
* Name calling?
* Disappear from the thread for a few days?
* Consult Mrs. aquascoot (who presumably knows a lot more about this than he does seeing as she works in a hospital)?

Stay tuned.

Oh, and while you're pondering your next move, perhaps you could shoot off another quick email to your hero, CHO John Gerrard, and ask him why Queensland's recent vaccination advertising campaign (just like WA's) didn't mention Covid at all when Queensland has had...

* 414 Covid deaths.
* 62 Influenza deaths and
* 34 RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) deaths (Wow! Highest in Australia for RSV).

...for 2024 up to until July 31st.

I'll be waiting with bated breath for you to post his reply. Roll Eyes

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1064 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

And I'm sure you're perfectly fine with that happening?

Yes, of course you are.

Same as our governments are perfectly fine with it because of all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs (as I've said many times before).

By the way... Covid is (and has been) killing young people and infants too. More than the flu does.

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