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Reply #15 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:07am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:20pm:
Interesting insights from Pauline ...


Never thought I'd see those words in the same sentence   Grin
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Reply #16 - Sep 21st, 2023 at 10:22am
 
This should be good. Not.

About the only worthwhile thing to come out of this might be to hear Albanese actually say the word "Covid".

Albanese to announce 12-month COVID-19 inquiry

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce the long-awaited inquiry into Australia’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic on Thursday.

The 12-month inquiry will not be a royal commission but is expected to have wide-ranging powers to call witnesses and will examine the response of federal and state governments to the pandemic since it began in January 2020.


Why no Royal Commission? And, is any mention going to be made of the fact that Covid has been worse (more than 14,000 deaths) since the Federal election last year?

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Albanese and Health Minister Mark Butler will on Thursday release terms of reference for the inquiry, which will be led by medical and economic experts.


Don't forget to ask the CBD coffee shop owners for their 'expert' opinions. And travel agents.

And, if we're really lucky we might even get special cameo appearances by Alan Joyce and Jayne "we need to open the borders even if some people may die (but it will be way smaller than with the flu)" Hrdlicka.

Pathetic.
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Reply #17 - Sep 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm
 
Carl D wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 10:22am:
This should be good. Not.

About the only worthwhile thing to come out of this might be to hear Albanese actually say the word "Covid".

Albanese to announce 12-month COVID-19 inquiry

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce the long-awaited inquiry into Australia’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic on Thursday.

The 12-month inquiry will not be a royal commission but is expected to have wide-ranging powers to call witnesses and will examine the response of federal and state governments to the pandemic since it began in January 2020.


Why no Royal Commission? And, is any mention going to be made of the fact that Covid has been worse (more than 14,000 deaths) since the Federal election last year?

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Albanese and Health Minister Mark Butler will on Thursday release terms of reference for the inquiry, which will be led by medical and economic experts.


Don't forget to ask the CBD coffee shop owners for their 'expert' opinions. And travel agents.

And, if we're really lucky we might even get special cameo appearances by Alan Joyce and Jayne "we need to open the borders even if some people may die (but it will be way smaller than with the flu)" Hrdlicka.

Pathetic.



its important we ask the lifters as well as the leaners, carl
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Reply #18 - Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:14pm
 
And... once again, Tim (who is an ex virologist) hits the bullseye.

Both times.
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Reply #19 - Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:19pm
 
https://www.9news.com.au/national/prime-minister-to-announce-12-month-covid-inqu...


Dirty Dan will get off Scott free.

the scope of the inquiry does not include "actions taken unilaterally by state and territory governments", meaning it won't be able to investigate the lockdowns and border closures that had such an impact on millions of Australians.

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Reply #20 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 6:46am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:19pm:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/prime-minister-to-announce-12-month-covid-inqu...


Dirty Dan will get off Scott free.

the scope of the inquiry does not include "actions taken unilaterally by state and territory governments", meaning it won't be able to investigate the lockdowns and border closures that had such an impact on millions of Australians.




It's a fake inquiry from Dan's mate Albo.
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Reply #21 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 7:53am
 
Albo's fake inquiry:


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/anne-ruston-calls-on-public-and-sector...


Shadow health minister Anne Ruston called on Australians to question Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s inquiry into the former Coalition government’s response to COVID-19.

The independent inquiry, announced on Thursday, stopped short of a royal commission which could compel witnesses and probe states and territories on their actions at the time.

It drew criticism as states and territories were largely left to enforce and lift regulations as they saw fit in consultations with relevant health chiefs. 

Ms Ruston told Sky News Australia the consequences of some of the states and territories’ actions were being ignored under the Prime Minister’s inquiry. 

“To have an inquiry that doesn’t compel the states and territories to participate in it is just joke,” she said on Thursday.

“It is not a half an inquiry, it is not really an inquiry at all.”

The Liberal Senator said she would be fighting to see states and territories answer for their actions and called on the public and impacted sectors to question their premiers and federal government.

“(Australians) should be asking those Premiers ‘what have you got to hide, why won’t you let Australia and particularly people who live in the state have some transparency about the actions they took during the pandemic’,” she said.
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Reply #22 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 8:53am
 
Jim Chalmers puts his spin on it:

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/commonwealth-had-substanti...



Commonwealth had ‘substantial’ responsibility in COVID years: Chalmers
4 minutes ago

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the Commonwealth has “substantial” responsibility for decisions made in the COVID-19 years.

His comments come as the Labor government launches an inquiry into the government’s handling of the pandemic years.

“We take responsibility as a Commonwealth for the big, impactful decisions that our predecessors had to take and often with our support to be fair,” Mr Chalmers told Sky News Australia.

“So, our job as a Commonwealth government is to take responsibility for learning the lessons from the past to apply them to the future.

“There’s nothing preventing the states from participating, making submissions to this review.”
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Reply #23 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am
 
Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

Are you in any way surprised?

All you need to know is here:

https://nitter.net/AlboMP/status/1704677358081638497#m

Lots of replies (and I haven't had time to read all of them) but it's safe to say that 99% are carrying on about border closures, lockdowns, masks, vaccines and other Covid protections that kept the majority of the population safe during the (ongoing) worst pandemic in over 100 years.

Finding a comment that mentions the nearly 23,000 deaths (14,000 since Albanese became PM), tens of thousands of hospitalisations and Long Covid is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Albanese (and the rest of our pollies) is/are once again treating the Australian population like the brainwashed mindless sheep that the majority of them are. And, it wasn't by accident that we've come to this point, by the way.
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Reply #24 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 9:21am
 
I can see the whitewash on the horizon already.

Improving future preparedness: Inquiry into the response to the Covid-19 pandemic

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The Government has appointed an independent panel to conduct the Inquiry. The panellists have vast experience in public health, government and economic policy.

    Ms Robyn Kruk AO, who has a wealth of experience in government and in leading independent reviews. Ms Kruk previously held roles as Director-General of the NSW Department of Health, Secretary of the Commonwealth Department of the Environment, Water, Heritage and the Arts, and CEO of the National Mental Health Commission.

    Professor Catherine Bennett, Deakin University’s current Chair in Epidemiology and the University of Melbourne’s former Associate Professor in Epidemiology and Director of Population Health Practice. Professor Bennett has also held senior positions in the New South Wales and Victorian state governments.

    Dr Angela Jackson, a health economist with extensive experience in economics and government, including through her current role as lead economist for Impact Economics and Policy. Dr Jackson is a member of the Economic Inclusion Advisory Committee and is the National Chair of the Women in Economics Network. Dr Jackson was also previously a Board Member and Chair of the Finance Committee at the Royal Melbourne Hospital from 2015-2021.


Here we go...

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1704674374534701061#m

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Can people please post their favourite screenshots/quotes of Catherine Bennett here? I have a reason. Thanks.


Be sure to read through the replies and screenshots, makes very interesting reading to say the least.

And (from the PM''s Media Release):

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The Inquiry will consider Commonwealth responses to the pandemic. This includes the provision of vaccinations, treatments and key medical supplies to Australians, mental health support for those impacted by COVID-19 and lockdowns, financial support for individuals and business, and assistance for Australians abroad.


Nothing about the almost 23,000 deaths (so far) I take it?

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Reply #25 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 9:24am
 
Carl D wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 9:01am:
Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

Are you in any way surprised?

All you need to know is here:

https://nitter.net/AlboMP/status/1704677358081638497#m

Lots of replies (and I haven't had time to read all of them) but it's safe to say that 99% are carrying on about border closures, lockdowns, masks, vaccines and other Covid protections that kept the majority of the population safe during the (ongoing) worst pandemic in over 100 years.

Finding a comment that mentions the nearly 23,000 deaths (14,000 since Albanese became PM), tens of thousands of hospitalisations and Long Covid is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Albanese (and the rest of our pollies) is/are once again treating the Australian population like the brainwashed mindless sheep that the majority of them are. And, it wasn't by accident that we've come to this point, by the way.



Just a few things I observed:

Dan got in the way between the sacred relationship of a doctor to their patient.
He has no medical qualifications but he was there by his laws at every doctor's desk.
People were denied elective surgery such as colonoscopies so many
will die a horrible death from colon cancer.
He closed down elective surgery in private hospitals which were none of his business.

He forced vaccines on to people or they would lose their jobs even though
a normal vaccine takes 10 years to approve and the ones used were only tested for 2 months
so he had no idea of the long term hazards involved.

People were arrested and fined for sitting on a park bench or beach
even though there was no record of people contracting Covid outside in the fresh air
and knowing that sunlight kills Covid.

He locked up 5.5 million of us under arrest for over 260 days -
a huge over reaction -
the whole state was put into lockdown over less than 5 cases.

Dan was completely out of control - he was in effect a madman running the state.
Many people were seriously injured by his thug police
who were only too glad to enforce his outrageous laws.
One was a 70 year old lady.

Now - he'll get off Scott free thanks to his mate Albo.
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Reply #26 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 10:44am
 
Speaking of the Premiers...

... who would have thought that NSW (and Australia) could have had a worse Premier regarding dealing with Covid than Dominic Perrottet?

But, Labor's Chris Minns has risen to the occasion.

The next step in making Covid 'magically' disappear (even though it hasn't).

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1705001623481983103#m

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Changes to rapid antigen testing are coming. From 1 October 2023, you will no longer be able to:
register a positive rapid antigen test (RAT) result with Service NSW. This is because the Service NSW RAT portal will close on this date.


I expect the rest of the States to follow in the not too distant future. Edit: Queensland have already done it as I found out later in the day. That doesn't surprise me one bit.

Same thing as what's happened with the dismantling of all our other Covid protections, one State does it and then the others follow so most of the population don't notice.

I have to admire Minn's (and almost every other Australian pollie's) smugness in obviously believing they will never be held accountable for the deaths and devastation caused by letting Covid rip with nothing but outdated vaccines to try and deal with it.

It may take a while but accountability is coming and I sure hope I'm still around to see it.

Oh, while I'm here...

https://nitter.net/IsaacChalik/status/1705003318584770920#m

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Isaac 🇦🇺 ⚖️ 🐶 🦁 🥷🏻
@IsaacChalik
1h
Replying to @NSWHealth
the sCiENce changed again?


aqua, would you care to comment seeing as you're OzPol's resident 'expert' on following the science (just shoot off a quick email to your hero "Dr. Death" if you're not too sure)?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Sep 23rd, 2023 at 8:38am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:19pm:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/prime-minister-to-announce-12-month-covid-inqu...


Dirty Dan will get off Scott free.

the scope of the inquiry does not include "actions taken unilaterally by state and territory governments", meaning it won't be able to investigate the lockdowns and border closures that had such an impact on millions of Australians.



Hey Bobby...

...here you go.

I'm betting right now that he won't be asked to appear and neither will Perrottet.

But, if by some 'miracle' they did appear (after they've lawyered up, of course) then I certainly wouldn't want to miss it. The outpouring of BS from the pair of them would be something to behold.

Same as what would happen if the rest of the current and former Premiers were called to appear.

And I also bet we'll be hearing a lot of "I can't recall" and "That wasn't my responsibility" (making a mockery of this "personal responsibility" that us plebs are supposed to be practising now) during this upcoming farce of an inquiry.

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"Minister, two basic rules of government: Never look into anything you don't have to. And never set up an inquiry unless you know in advance what its findings will be." - Sir Humphrey Appleby from Yes Minister.



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Reply #28 - Sep 24th, 2023 at 12:34am
 
Oh, and if anyone's still wondering why this country is so totally screwed regarding Covid at the moment then look no further than what I've marked in red from Bobby's above link.

Let's hope that the media and their role in deceiving the population about the pandemic being over is also mentioned in the upcoming inquiry... but I doubt it.
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Reply #29 - Sep 24th, 2023 at 1:31am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 9:24am:
Just a few things I observed...

No mate, you did not "observe" those things.  As a
presumed anti-vaxxer, you misinterpreted what you
thought you saw at the time, and are still using
those distorted claims as some sort of current evidence.

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Dan got in the way between the sacred relationship of a doctor to their patient.

Nope; he had sound, professional medical advice from
competent and qualified scientists and researchers. 
You're implication that it was Andrews alone who made
all these decision during COVID-19 is nonsensical.

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He has no medical qualifications...

We all knew that, which is exactly why he relied on a
team of medical experts to advise him at the time.
Andrews didn't have any need to be medically qualified.   
That's simply a straw man.

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People were denied elective surgery such as colonoscopies so many will die a horrible death from colon cancer.

Nope.  "Elective" surgeries were delayed only. Elective
surgeries fall into three categories; urgent, semi-urgent
and non-urgent.  No "urgent" surgeries were denied.

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...a normal vaccine takes 10 years to approve and the ones used were only tested for 2 months
so he had no idea of the long term hazards involved.

Not so.  Research data from previous coronaviruses such
as SARS-CoV-1 in February 2003 and MERS‐CoV in 2012,
gave researchers a head start when it came to building
the COVID-19 vaccines.

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He locked up 5.5 million of us under arrest for over 260 days - a huge over reaction - the whole state was put into lockdown over less than 5 cases.

No.  Nobody in Victoria was "locked up" LOL.  At all time
we could leave our houses to travel inside a 5km radius
from our home.  That's an area of around 80km2.  Hardly
restrictive!  In fact, during that lockdown, I actually travelled
more than 70km from home, twice, for medical treatment.

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Dan was completely out of control - he was in effect a madman running the state.

Oh dear...    mate, you've seriously lost the plot.    Grin

At any rate, you've fallen for the old trap of being
wise after the event—hindsight is a wonderful
teacher.  The decisions made at the time, from
March 2020 onwards were based on the best
observational data, and research, of this brand new
virus, the SARS-CoV-2.

I can absolutely, 100%, guarantee that you—as
a layman—had not the vaguest notion of what the
new virus was, or its ultimately devastating effect
on human life globally, or even how it could be treated
in March 2020.  If you had, you would now have a
Nobel Prize sitting on your desk.

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