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CCP is supporting islamic terrorism
May 8th, 2024 at 1:27pm
 
This was also reported recently in The Australian.

China’s connection to Israel attacks

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2023/10/17/2003807790

The recent Hamas attack on Israel, with indirect financial support tied to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), raises questions about China’s positioning in the Middle East. It also highlights the ongoing significance of international backing for nations such as Taiwan, Israel and Ukraine.

Last week, as the world witnessed Hamas terrorists targeting Israeli civilians, Beijing surprised the international community with an official statement that omitted any condemnation of the attack. During a visit to Beijing, a delegation of US lawmakers expressed their disappointment with Chinese President Xi Jinping’s (習近平) failure to stand with Israel, a stance taken by most of the world’s democratic nations.

Beijing’s position represents a political risk, jeopardizing its diplomatic standing and potential trade and investment ties with Israel in exchange for bolstering its relationships with Middle Eastern Muslim nations.

Notably, China’s alignment in the Middle East takes into account the Sunni-Shiite divide, with Iran playing a pivotal role in its regional alliance-building efforts.

China is Iran’s primary trade partner, and Iran’s economic reliance on China is substantial. Because the West has sanctioned Iran, selling oil to China remains one of Tehran’s few viable revenue streams.

Furthermore, China assists Iran in areas such as military equipment, technology and weaponry, and extends support to Iran’s nuclear program. In turn, Iran provides financial aid, weapons, training and technological support to Hamas.

Matthew Levitt, director of the Reinhard Program on Counterterrorism and Intelligence at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, recently told Deutsche Welle that Iran provides substantial funding to Hamas, estimated at US$70 million to US$100 million annually, even in the face of US sanctions.

Iran and Hamas place a higher emphasis on their militant activities than on the welfare of their constituents. Under Hamas’ rule, Gaza residents experience notably low living standards.

Furthermore, in addition to financial support from Iran, Hamas imposes taxes on all imports and exports in Gaza, further complicating the livelihoods of its citizens.

Hamas holds effective governance in the Gaza Strip, often in conflict with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), an entity that has, at times, been labeled a terrorist organization. Beijing maintains engagement with both parties.

China has been a consistent supporter of the PLO since the 1960s, and recognized Palestinian statehood in 1988. The PLO maintains an embassy in Beijing, while China has a representative office in the Palestinian territories. China consistently upholds the Palestinian cause in global forums such as the UN, advocating for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. Earlier this year, China and Palestine solidified their relations through a strategic partnership agreement.

China’s support for Palestine is driven by its desire to position itself as an ally of the Muslim world, thereby fostering a coalition against Israel. Concomitantly, Israel’s economic significance to China has declined. Foreign direct investment from China and exports to Israel peaked in 2018.

Furthermore, China’s favorability among Israelis is waning. In 2016, 66 percent of the Israeli populace held a positive view of China. By last year, the figure had dwindled to 48 percent.

China’s support for Hamas during this conflict could further exacerbate this decline.

The US has long maintained a staunch alliance with Israel, extending crucial military assistance. In 2018, Israel officially relocated its capital to Jerusalem, a move that rendered a China-mediated peace agreement unattainable. Although many Western nations declined to endorse the transition, former US president Donald Trump showed solidarity with Israel by transferring the US embassy to Jerusalem.

That same year, thousands of kilometers away in Taipei, he similarly relocated the American Institute in Taiwan, effectively the de facto embassy, to an impressive US$250 million, 6.5 hectare office complex. The move sent a clear signal to China that Washington was amplifying its support for Taiwan.

In addition to providing military aid to Israel and Taiwan, the US has been funding the defense of Ukraine. US lawmakers are fighting over whether or not to keep supporting all three, and by how much.

Those who support continued funding say that if the Hamas attack on Israel goes unanswered or if Ukraine falls to Russia, China would be emboldened to invade Taiwan. Xi is closely monitoring these developments, and the global response to the Ukraine conflict and the Hamas attack would influence his assessment of the potential reaction to a Taiwan invasion.

Should he perceive Washington as an unreliable partner, one that might abandon Taiwan, it could prompt him to take action.

“I do not know a single Israeli who does not support Taiwan,” said Yitzhak Tzubara, a former staff sergeant in Israeli military intelligence with a master’s degree in East Asian Studies.

He said that while some Israelis might refrain from openly expressing their pro-Taiwan stance due to professional connections with or business interests in China, they, too, hold a favorable view of Taiwan.
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Reply #1 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:23pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
This was also reported recently in The Australian.

China’s connection to Israel attacks

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2023/10/17/2003807790

The recent Hamas attack on Israel, with indirect financial support tied to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), raises questions about China’s positioning in the Middle East. It also highlights the ongoing significance of international backing for nations such as Taiwan, Israel and Ukraine.
 

See the problem with believing what you read in 'The Australian'...

The EU has also been supporting the occupied territories and Gaza, for decades. 

And international support for Taiwan has nothing to do with international support for Palestine; other nations are not sending aid to wealthy Taiwan like the US is, as part of the US attempt to maintain global hegemony against a rising China.

...though FD, being a "freedom values" ideologue, falls for the narrative hook-line-and sinker. 

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Last week, as the world witnessed Hamas terrorists targeting Israeli civilians, Beijing surprised the international community with an official statement that omitted any condemnation of the attack. During a visit to Beijing, a delegation of US lawmakers expressed their disappointment with Chinese President Xi Jinping’s (習近平) failure to stand with Israel, a stance taken by most of the world’s democratic nations.


China has long been a supporter of UN res 242, like most of the world including the EU - unlike the US. The Palestinian state would exist today, but for RW zionists in the US with the power to exercise the US veto in the UNSC.   

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Beijing’s position represents a political risk, jeopardizing its diplomatic standing and potential trade and investment ties with Israel in exchange for bolstering its relationships with Middle Eastern Muslim nations.


This 'The Oz' goon worrying about risks taken by Beijing?

Certainly the US is annoyed Beijing adjudicated a rapprochment between S. Arabia and Iran...

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Notably, China’s alignment in the Middle East takes into account the Sunni-Shiite divide, with Iran playing a pivotal role in its regional alliance-building efforts.


And notably, this pathetic 'The Oz' goon is now going to attack Iran....

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China is Iran’s primary trade partner,


China is many nations' primary trading partner... aren't you ashamed to associate yourself with such blind ideology-based distortion of facts?   


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Reply #2 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:35pm
 
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The EU has also been supporting the occupied territories and Gaza, for decades.


Supporting a piece of dirt?
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Reply #3 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:35pm:
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The EU has also been supporting the occupied territories and Gaza, for decades.


Supporting a piece of dirt?


Fraud alert:

Fraudiver in full flight, in this case courtesy of his letter of the law device, to avoid addressing the issue.
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Reply #4 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:53pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:35pm:
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The EU has also been supporting the occupied territories and Gaza, for decades.


Supporting a piece of dirt?


Fraud alert:

Fraudiver in full flight, in this case courtesy of his letter of the law device, to avoid addressing the issue.


Do you understand why people might object to the CCP supporting Islamic terrorism?
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Reply #5 - May 8th, 2024 at 5:35pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:35pm:
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The EU has also been supporting the occupied territories and Gaza, for decades.


Supporting a piece of dirt?


Fraud alert:

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Do you understand why people might object to the CCP supporting Islamic terrorism?


The CCP don't support Islamic terrorism, indeed they have cracked down on it in Xinjiang, to the benefit of everyone in Xinjiang.

Nor do they support RW Israeli terrorism, unlike you.
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2024 at 5:52pm
 
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Last week, as the world witnessed Hamas terrorists targeting Israeli civilians, Beijing surprised the international community with an official statement that omitted any condemnation of the attack.


Why do you think that is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Palestine_relations

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In January 2024, Israel reported that it discovered a big stockpile of Chinese weaponry used by Hamas.


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China does not consider Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip as a terrorist organization
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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
It's right up there with the USA supporting the Moslem Mujahadeen against USSR
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 5:52pm:
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Last week, as the world witnessed Hamas terrorists targeting Israeli civilians, Beijing surprised the international community with an official statement that omitted any condemnation of the attack.


Why do you think that is?
 

For the same reason Guterres put forward: "the attack didn't happen in a vacuum".

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Palestine_relations

In January 2024, Israel reported that it discovered a big stockpile of Chinese weaponry used by Hamas.


No kidding... meanwhile AT LAST., the US is being shamed into ceasing delivering  weapons stockpiles for Israel.

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China does not consider Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip as a terrorist organization


China has a more balanced view of the conflict than you.
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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
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China has a more balanced view of the conflict than you.


I am not talking about China. I am talking about the CCP.

What other governments share the CCP's view that Hamas is not a terrorist organisation and shouldn't be criticised for the October 7 invasion?

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For the same reason Guterres put forward: "the attack didn't happen in a vacuum".


Nothing happens in a vacuum. But he did unequivocally condemn the attack.
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Reply #10 - May 9th, 2024 at 1:05pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 8:05pm:
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China has a more balanced view of the conflict than you.


I am not talking about China. I am talking about the CCP.


You said "
China does not consider Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip as a terrorist organization
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I accept your concession.   

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What other governments share the CCP's view that Hamas is not a terrorist organisation and shouldn't be criticised for the October 7 invasion?


https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/everyday-explainers/israel-countries...

"India does not recognise Hamas as a 'terrorist' organisation — only a handful of countries around the world do".

Of course Hamas doesn't speak for all Palestinians, who most of the world want to reocognize a a UN member- state, as will be shown in Friday's upcoming  UNGA vote on "Palestine is a peace-loving entity and should be admitted to UN membership" - which will reveal the laggards like the US and probably  US-a*se lickers like Oz who will abstain. 

As for China, it doesn't automatically regard people who resist Israel's confiscation of Palestine as "terrorist", as you do.

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Nothing happens in a vacuum. But he did unequivocally condemn the attack.
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Yes; and he correctly sees the solution to the conflict - like China - as recognition of Palestine NOW, not when Israel thinks the time and conditions right, which is never; RW zionists won't countenance it, least of all East Jeruslam as the capital of Palestine.   

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Reply #11 - May 9th, 2024 at 1:33pm
 
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You said "China does not consider Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip as a terrorist organization".


That was a quote. Hence the quote box.

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and he correctly sees the solution to the conflict - like China - as recognition of Palestine NOW


So paperwork will stop the war? Wouldn't the war end sooner if Hamas simply stopped attacking?

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Yes


And the CCP didn't. Why not?

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Of course Hamas doesn't speak for all Palestinians, who most of the world want to reocognize a a UN member- state


How can the Palestinians be recognised as a state without a government to represent them?
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2024 at 2:48pm
 
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 1:33pm:
So paperwork will stop the war? Wouldn't the war end sooner if Hamas simply stopped attacking?


No. Recognition of Palestine  will.

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And the CCP didn't. Why not?
 

Many countries didn't.  Why not?

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How can the Palestinians be recognised as a state without a government to represent them?


The Palestinian Authority will represent them; Fatah and Hamas are negotiating arrangements as we speak.
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Reply #13 - May 9th, 2024 at 3:13pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 1:33pm:
So paperwork will stop the war? Wouldn't the war end sooner if Hamas simply stopped attacking?


No. Recognition of Palestine  will.

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And the CCP didn't. Why not?
 

Many countries didn't.  Why not?

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How can the Palestinians be recognised as a state without a government to represent them?


The Palestinian Authority will represent them; Fatah and Hamas are negotiating arrangements as we speak.


So Hamas and Fatah were the ones holding up Palestinian statehood?

When you say "recognition" do you just mean paperwork, or something more meaningful? A few grand speeches perhaps?

Even Muslim countries have started condemning Hamas' attacks. But not the CCP.
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Reply #14 - May 9th, 2024 at 4:15pm
 
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 1:33pm:
So paperwork will stop the war? Wouldn't the war end sooner if Hamas simply stopped attacking?


No. Recognition of Palestine  will.

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And the CCP didn't. Why not?
 

Many countries didn't.  Why not?

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How can the Palestinians be recognised as a state without a government to represent them?


The Palestinian Authority will represent them; Fatah and Hamas are negotiating arrangements as we speak.


So Hamas and Fatah were the ones holding up Palestinian statehood?


No. Refusual of Israel to abide by UN 242  - aided and abetted by the US , did.

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When you say "recognition" do you just mean paperwork, or something more meaningful? A few grand speeches perhaps?
 

No, I mean establishment of Palestine as per UN res. 242; which Hamas will accept now, as all friends of Palestine would urge them  to do (because the imperialist judeo christian usurpation of half of Palestine  is not reversible now).

Of course that means the illegal settler goons will have to be bulldozed out of the WB; will Israel make war with the entire world?

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Even Muslim countries have started condemning Hamas' attacks. But not the CCP.


Yes, China sees geo-political advantages in working to establish UN res 242; they are happy for the US and its allies to condemn Hamas -  while the US is blocking UN res 242 at the same  time. US hypocrisy will soon be in the spot-light, in the upcoming UNGA vote. 

 
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