Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10
th, 2024 at 9:28am:
FleaDriver believes the answer to India's problems is in China.
He is desperately delving into his propaganda bag to demonstrate it.
Correct, and ignoring the current crappy conditions in the US: eg
It is fine by me if we start a new thread on this. I am not ignoring what is going on in the US. I am saying it does not even come close to the CCP killing about 100 million of it's own citizens, or the rapid transition from starvation communism to a free market.
Can you explain why you think the outcome of the most recent transformation of China is a result of stability rather than clear and direct evidence of instability?
Did you ignore my last post because I was on the money when I said you are trying to blame the rapid change on stability because you are loath to credit a free market with creating wealth or admit that the CCP have become the very capitalists they spent the better part of a century trying to slaughter?
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 9
th, 2024 at 12:30pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 8
th, 2024 at 2:51pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 8
th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7
th, 2024 at 5:47pm:
Quote:Mao mismanaged collective farming 60 years ago; and the US is suffering from neoliberal free market dysfunction NOW
The CCP killed about 100 million of it's own citizens through "mismanagement".
Correct (disregarding the exaggerated numbers).
How many Chinese people do you think the CCP has killed?
By intention - zero (apart from state-destroying 'freedom values' ideologues)
How many fall into the "apart from" excuse for the CCP's mass murder of its own citizens?
You are yet to explain how going from starvation communism to a liberal market driving a massive increase in wealth counts as stability. Either political or social. It is one of the most rapid changes in the last century.
Is it just because you equate wealth with stability and want to credit it to stability so you don't have to acknowledge that the Chinese Communist Party has turned into those capitalist ideologues that it spent a better part of a century trying to slaughter?
Quote:o; the current slowdown in China is due to external geopolitical factors (paranoid US-led "decoupling")
It is because the CCP is decoupled from reality by believing its own hubris. It has seen the success of capitalism but fears the economic freedom granted to citizens may lead to demands for other types of freedom, human rights, or the expansion of democracy.
The CCP does not need the US government to decouple from the global economy. It is more than capable of stuffing things up on its own. Like when the lights literally went out because the CCP put a trade embargo on Australian coal. Didn't think that one through, did they?
One thing you are right about, most of the CCP's victims were not deliberately targeted. Thought tens of millions were, merely for having the wrong opinion. Most of the people the CCP killed, they were actually trying to help. Like the Great Chinese Famine. The only thing more dangerous than a Nazi trying to exterminate you is a communist trying to help you.
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