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The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000
Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 9:16pm

Published last July:

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Armed conflicts have indirect health implications beyond the direct harm from violence. Even if the conflict ends immediately, there will continue to be many indirect deaths in the coming months and years from causes such as reproductive, communicable, and non-communicable diseases. The total death toll is expected to be large given the intensity of this conflict; destroyed health-care infrastructure; severe shortages of food, water, and shelter; the population's inability to flee to safe places; and the loss of funding to UNRWA, one of the very few humanitarian organisations still active in the Gaza Strip.

In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37,396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2,375,259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28,000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58,260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85,750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fullt...

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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3331 Wombat NSW	Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000 Reply #1 - Jun 26^th, 2025 at 6:31pm bump
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Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000
Reply #2 - Jun 26^th, 2025 at 9:41pm

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 9:16pm:

Published last July:

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Armed conflicts have indirect health implications beyond the direct harm from violence. Even if the conflict ends immediately, there will continue to be many indirect deaths in the coming months and years from causes such as reproductive, communicable, and non-communicable diseases. The total death toll is expected to be large given the intensity of this conflict; destroyed health-care infrastructure; severe shortages of food, water, and shelter; the population's inability to flee to safe places; and the loss of funding to UNRWA, one of the very few humanitarian organisations still active in the Gaza Strip.

In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37,396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2,375,259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28,000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58,260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85,750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fullt...

Sounds like something Hamas had worked on and prepared well before 7 October 2023.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52234 Gender:	Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000 Reply #3 - Jun 26^th, 2025 at 10:27pm Blame HAMAS.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87517 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000 Reply #4 - Jun 26^th, 2025 at 11:08pm I call BS on that one. That would be 10% of the population - and the population is higher now than it was on 7-10 when Hamas attacked Israel.
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Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000
Reply #5 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:37am

Israel ‘Disappeared’ around 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza since 2023 – Report

June 24, 2025

At least 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza have “disappeared” due to Israel’s ongoing genocidal war on the enclave since October 2023, a new report published via Harvard Dataverse revealed.

Using data-driven analysis, including spatial mapping and location data, the report by Israeli professor Yaakov Garb this month scrutinizes how Israel’s aid blockade on the enclave and attacks on Palestinians led to a considerable decline in the total population.

more here:

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-disappeared-around-377000-palestinians...

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Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000
Reply #6 - Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:52am

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:37am:

Israel ‘Disappeared’ around 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza since 2023 – Report

June 24, 2025

At least 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza have “disappeared” due to Israel’s ongoing genocidal war on the enclave since October 2023, a new report published via Harvard Dataverse revealed.

Using data-driven analysis, including spatial mapping and location data, the report by Israeli professor Yaakov Garb this month scrutinizes how Israel’s aid blockade on the enclave and attacks on Palestinians led to a considerable decline in the total population.

more here:

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-disappeared-around-377000-palestinians...

LOL. What data?

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Re: The Lancet: Gaza Death Toll closer to 200,000
Reply #7 - Yesterday at 10:52pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:52am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:37am:

Israel ‘Disappeared’ around 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza since 2023 – Report

June 24, 2025

At least 377,000 Palestinians in Gaza have “disappeared” due to Israel’s ongoing genocidal war on the enclave since October 2023, a new report published via Harvard Dataverse revealed.

Using data-driven analysis, including spatial mapping and location data, the report by Israeli professor Yaakov Garb this month scrutinizes how Israel’s aid blockade on the enclave and attacks on Palestinians led to a considerable decline in the total population.

more here:

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-disappeared-around-377000-palestinians...

LOL. What data?

It's called the Harvard Dataverse, as mentioned already. Or didn't you read it?

And the MSM is also reporting it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-disappeared-almost-400-000-people-in...

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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